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Old 10-01-2010, 01:52 AM
 
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A rather eyebrow raising statement that, it seems some tea party types believe that if only taxes in the USA were a lot lower employers would rush straight out and employ a lot more people.

I'm an employer and I take extra staff on when the demand for services is such that my current staff levels cannot handle the work.
Why should employers hire staff if there is not the demand to warrant the extra staff ?

Huge cuts to tax, how would the military etc be funded ?
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:21 AM
 
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A rather eyebrow raising statement that, it seems some tea party types believe that if only taxes in the USA were a lot lower employers would rush straight out and employ a lot more people.

I'm an employer and I take extra staff on when the demand for services is such that my current staff levels cannot handle the work.
Why should employers hire staff if there is not the demand to warrant the extra staff ?

Huge cuts to tax, how would the military etc be funded ?
Here's another good one, would CEO's cut their pay by a few million annually to hire more people?
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:04 AM
 
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A rather eyebrow raising statement that, it seems some tea party types believe that if only taxes in the USA were a lot lower employers would rush straight out and employ a lot more people.

I'm an employer and I take extra staff on when the demand for services is such that my current staff levels cannot handle the work.
Why should employers hire staff if there is not the demand to warrant the extra staff ?

Huge cuts to tax, how would the military etc be funded ?
I've been asking this question for months... or more accurately, pointing out how ridiculous such an argument is.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:15 AM
 
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A rather eyebrow raising statement that, it seems some tea party types believe that if only taxes in the USA were a lot lower employers would rush straight out and employ a lot more people.

I'm an employer and I take extra staff on when the demand for services is such that my current staff levels cannot handle the work.
Why should employers hire staff if there is not the demand to warrant the extra staff ?

Huge cuts to tax, how would the military etc be funded ?
My brother-in-law would he's a small business owner. What's needed his tax cuts across the board for everyone, employer and consumer alike. But that's not going to happen because the money's has to come from somewhere to fund our social entitlements, which are bankrupting the country.

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Here's another good one, would CEO's cut their pay by a few million annually to hire more people?
A few might, depends on the individual. Not all CEOs are equal.

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I've been asking this question for months... or more accurately, pointing out how ridiculous such an argument is.
Well that's because you think inside the liberal box. You should step out of it sometimes
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:26 AM
 
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It's not JUST lower taxes. Businesses are also dealing with the uncertainty of Obamacare, Cap and Trade, Card Check and whatever government regulation this President and his political party have in store for them down the road that involve money and paperwork.

And you know what, if they contributed to Democrat presidential and congressional campaigns, they deserve what they get. Employees are collateral damage for the employers helping to get this Democrat crew elected.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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Here's another good one, would CEO's cut their pay by a few million annually to hire more people?
Small businesses not large corporations represent 99.7 percent of all employers and employ 57.4 million Americans or 50.6 percent of the non-farm private sector workforce.

SBA: Office of Advocacy - Small Business Drives The U.S. Economy (http://www.sba.gov/advo/press/06-17.html - broken link)
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:40 AM
 
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Small businesses not large corporations represent 99.7 percent of all employers and employ 57.4 million Americans or 50.6 percent of the non-farm private sector workforce.

SBA: Office of Advocacy - Small Business Drives The U.S. Economy (http://www.sba.gov/advo/press/06-17.html - broken link)
Precisely. Though liberals like to blow this issue to huge proportions, these CEOs are the heads of a small percentage of our job growth drivers.

They act as if, by penalizing CEOs, the poor will suddenly have jobs.

Furthermore, it is not the government's business what a CEO in a private corportation makes unless they receive public funds-----------but this concept is completely lost on most liberals.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:42 AM
 
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It's not JUST lower taxes. Businesses are also dealing with the uncertainty of Obamacare, Cap and Trade, Card Check and whatever government regulation this President and his political party have in store for them down the road that involve money and paperwork.
Well said. Businesses deal with layers of taxes and regulations, layers of money and paperwork: at the federal, state and local levels. Combined, these are crushing small business.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:44 AM
 
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My brother-in-law would he's a small business owner. What's needed his tax cuts across the board for everyone, employer and consumer alike. But that's not going to happen because the money's has to come from somewhere to fund our social entitlements, which are bankrupting the country.



A few might, depends on the individual. Not all CEOs are equal.



Well that's because you think inside the liberal box. You should step out of it sometimes
So if we cut social entitlements, like unemployment, SSI, foodstamps, etc., then we have tent camps of people living in abandoned fields (like the great depression) who can't buy anything either (plus it's just draconian--I don't want to live in a country where we let grandma and little children starve to death so I can buy a boat). My family is below the $250,000.00 cut off proposed for raising taxes, but we're in the 33% tax bracket. We aren't spending a dime more than we did before the tax rate went down--we're saving and investing it. That's exactly what our friends are doing too. Trickle down economics is a myth. If they raised my taxes a percent or two, we could still easily absorb it into our budget without impacting our lifestyle in any way. I don't want to pay taxes any more than the next person, but if it takes that to fix this country, I'll do it proudly as a patriotic American. Since when did being an American stand for "every man for himself?"
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:54 AM
 
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Well that's because you think inside the liberal box. You should step out of it sometimes
Ah, no that's because I think not only out of economics box (my degree) but as I have explained elsewhere, as a small business owner.

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My brother-in-law would he's a small business owner. What's needed his tax cuts across the board for everyone, employer and consumer alike.
I don't doubt that most folks at this time couldn't use a little more money in their pockets and a tax cut for 98% of small business owners and their customers would be incredibly helpful, but more money in the pockets of all of us in this economy doesn't translate into business expansion!

The data is clear, savings rates are up despite declines in overall income, which means, that people are holding on to whatever disposable income that they may have, generally a good thing, except saving money doesn't drive an increase in demand, just the opposite. No small business, my included, is going to expand when there isn't the demand for goods and services!!
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