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Old 09-21-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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No; you basvially have to have it in you to murder anyone in the first place. Taht is like saying that having children is the reason so many mother murder them.One does cause or excuse the other.Most are deadbeats long before they are murders.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:32 PM
 
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Medically depression is the main reason for deaths in the USA not because it was in them. A traumatic experience I.E. paying for a child you aren't aloud to see or have partial contact. with basically you get live in almost poverty while your ex lives the good life with your money. can cause you to kill it's not that you have it in you its a gradual thing and it really takes quite abit for some and others one traumatic experiece can cause issues with wanting to kill someone. Another example shell shocked Veterans of our lovely military that don't get help when they have to run around dodging bullets and not knowing if one night a mortar is going to come through the top of there tent. It's easy to see all of this happening. DEPRESSION #1 cause of murder! Read the incidents behind that persons life that commited the murder. I don't believe in killing anyone but it happens based on mental illness that you can treat and sometimes can't cure at all. CHILD SUPPORT CAUSES EXTREME DEPRESSION IN MALES because we are marked! end of story. I understand it sucks he killed his daughter and really surprised he didn't kill himself in the process.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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A recent news report stated that the number of women being murdered by dead-beat-dad to avoid paying or avoiding child support payments is on the increase; and has been increasing steadily each year. The report said many of these dead-beat-dads saw murder as the only out.

Is there a flaw in the system? Is forced child support payments causing more harm than good? Could this turn into uncontrolled murders in U.S. cities, such as in other third world countries? Should Child Support laws be changed or for that matter, abolished altogether? Is it time for this issue to be addressed by congress before it gets worse?

What is your opinion?
Where is the emoticon for collapsing on the floor in a hysterical fit of giggles? I'm not understanding the question here....I guess if the only choices you have is to take care of a child completely on your own OR be killed...
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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Why is it difficult for people to see that the child support system is flawed. How is it ok to take everything from one parent (mainly the father) and remember all fathers aren't dead beats it's a very sexist system and if your black/hispanic you have no hope. To be honest if you feel so strongly about your kid is better off with you while your making $7/hr living on welfare ect,. Common Sense answer NO!! Should we as fathers help yes but giving someone money to live beyond there means and it all doesn't go to the child. How is it ok to take away another persons way of living and give someone else the good life. Why should we as men be expected to give up our entire lives for the benefit of not even our children the mothers who don't believe in schooling or trying to better them self in any way. You say pay all or die. No you should pay over 50% though why you took away our child from us and we are reduced to visitor/part-timers in our own kids lives. we are basically crucified the mother manipulate children to hate us. I know father right now who's ex's made their kids hate them for no apparent reason when she get's tons of child support.


Look at it this way if you bring home 2000 a month net earnings you shouldn't be forced to give up half($1000) Now where is he going to live how is he going to pick up his kids from daycare go to there events. Put a roof over his head and his kids when he has his visitation time or how about being able to eat for that matter and putting food on the table for his child/children. honestly look at that does that sound right. If you have custody take responsiblility because you know why you gave your man so much stress and drama to reduce them to someone basically not a parent and it's funny the daycare get's to see the child more than the father does. Think about it. Is this system right in destroying somone's way of living and giving it to someone else to live the high life. for all you IGNORANT FOLKS OUT THERE USE YOUR HEAD if you have gone through 3rd grade math this is simple to see it's not right
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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Also fathers will not get state aid based on what we earn an hour so yeah we can't even get effientcy for those that are thinking that right now.
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: PA
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There is a difference between dads who dont pay anything and disappear. Or the dads who agree to pay it, can't afford it, lose there job and or dont make what they use too. When a dad has to pay child support in most cases sometimes he agrees to something not truly knowing the outcome and how finincally it will set him back while none of it tax decutable. A large part of his income could be going to child support and to the IRS they still consider him to be making what he is making when he likely is paying 2 mortages one for the wife to live in the house he use to have and the new 2 bedroom apartment. So between all the bills and possible carring to mortages and the wife can spend and spend and knows the money keeps coming in every week the dad is stuck. You figure it out, the laws are against the dad. Marriage is against men and frankly everything they ever owned and worked for the women think even if they leave him just because they are unhappy they are entitled to all he has.
Dont forget the lawyer fees everyone has to pay as well.
Murder is wrong but sometimes people snap for a reason and I dont think its about they want to get out of paying child support its probably who you have to pay it too that is the problem.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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PERFECTlY EXPLAINED!!!
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Why is it difficult for people to see that the child support system is flawed. How is it ok to take everything from one parent (mainly the father) and remember all fathers aren't dead beats it's a very sexist system and if your black/hispanic you have no hope. To be honest if you feel so strongly about your kid is better off with you while your making $7/hr living on welfare ect,. Common Sense answer NO!! Should we as fathers help yes but giving someone money to live beyond there means and it all doesn't go to the child. How is it ok to take away another persons way of living and give someone else the good life. Why should we as men be expected to give up our entire lives for the benefit of not even our children the mothers who don't believe in schooling or trying to better them self in any way. You say pay all or die. No you should pay over 50% though why you took away our child from us and we are reduced to visitor/part-timers in our own kids lives. we are basically crucified the mother manipulate children to hate us. I know father right now who's ex's made their kids hate them for no apparent reason when she get's tons of child support.


Look at it this way if you bring home 2000 a month net earnings you shouldn't be forced to give up half($1000) Now where is he going to live how is he going to pick up his kids from daycare go to there events. Put a roof over his head and his kids when he has his visitation time or how about being able to eat for that matter and putting food on the table for his child/children. honestly look at that does that sound right. If you have custody take responsiblility because you know why you gave your man so much stress and drama to reduce them to someone basically not a parent and it's funny the daycare get's to see the child more than the father does. Think about it. Is this system right in destroying somone's way of living and giving it to someone else to live the high life. for all you IGNORANT FOLKS OUT THERE USE YOUR HEAD if you have gone through 3rd grade math this is simple to see it's not right
It sounds like your issue is that you had a baby from a hood chick who used your child support money to buy club clothes and get her hair did
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:56 AM
 
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you are missing the whole point! The system needs to be changed!
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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you are missing the whole point! The system needs to be changed!
Yes but your little rant about having babies from women who don't believe in schooling or trying to better them self in any way really didn't help that argument any. After reading all of that the only thing that came to my mind is be more selective about who you're having sex with.

Also, is it normal for a non-custodial parent to pay 50% of their monthly gross in child support?

Oh you said net earnings meaning his gross is higher than 2K. I don't think the percentage is determined by your net....but I could be wrong.
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