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Your qualified statements would be funny if they werent so irritating. Young people turned out because they got energized and mobilized. Black people would not have turned out for Alan Keyes, for example. Likely both groups saw the Bush regime as an out of control black hole of death; I know millions of traditional conservatives saw it that way and voted for Obama to get the country back on a sane track. I think your conclusions are just defensive ones, protecting your typical right wing hope that young people and black people are easily fooled by shiny objects and that's the only way they vote at all. I realize you're not black, but were you ever young?
As an Hispanic individual who came of voting age when Carter was screwing up the country, I, too, was energized and can understand why Young, Impressionable Voters were swayed by Obama.
Young people are easily misled by the sound bite MTV "Vote or Die" mentality. Most (not all) have the attention span of guppies and are only interested in the flavor of the moment. Some of these individuals would have voted for P Diddy, or whatever Sean Combs is calling himself today.
I am on campus of a major university in my community. It was incredible watching young students become enthralled with Obama, not listening to his words, but the snippets about how Bush screwed up their future.
It is one thing to study a candidate's policy and then pull he lever to cast your vote to get the country back on track. It's another to vote for the hip black dude.
Funny how people can claim some voted against Obama because he's black, but when the vote was for Obama and his skin color, it can't be defined that way?
FWIW I don't vote the party line and have come to learn that I am more a centrist.
Obama ran an excellent campaign against a once impressive, but now somewhat shaky opponent. His admittedly impressive oratory and good looks dovetailed perfectly with a feeling of malaise that was permeating the nation.
I usually do not agree with President Obama, but his race, although historically significant, is largely irrelevant.[/quote]
So you dont think his race had something to do with beating Hillary in the primary? No one will convince me that it didnt have something to do with many whites voting for him as the feel good "black" candidate.
It would have been tough for ANY Republican to win in 2008.
Lil' Bush saw to that.....in spades!
However, McCain MIGHT have made the race tighter, a lot tighter if:
A) Kept to his core values, instead of appeasing the far right
B) Palin
C) Palin
D) Palin
... the vote or die campaign went on during 2004 and it failed because bush was reelected
people voted obama because they hated bush. that was the biggest reason. mccain was like bush 2.0 to a lot of people.
It would have been tough for ANY Republican to win in 2008.
Lil' Bush saw to that.....in spades!
However, McCain MIGHT have made the race tighter, a lot tighter if:
A) Kept to his core values, instead of appeasing the far right
B) Palin
C) Palin
D) Palin
You betcha.....Steve
What about Obama against Hillary (the more qualified candidate in the primary)? No one wants to touch that, because everyone knows it was all about Obama's race / skin color. Pathetic.
As an Hispanic individual who came of voting age when Carter was screwing up the country, I, too, was energized and can understand why Young, Impressionable Voters were swayed by Obama.
Young people are easily misled by the sound bite MTV "Vote or Die" mentality. Most (not all) have the attention span of guppies and are only interested in the flavor of the moment. Some of these individuals would have voted for P Diddy, or whatever Sean Combs is calling himself today.
I am on campus of a major university in my community. It was incredible watching young students become enthralled with Obama, not listening to his words, but the snippets about how Bush screwed up their future.
It is one thing to study a candidate's policy and then pull he lever to cast your vote to get the country back on track. It's another to vote for the hip black dude.
Funny how people can claim some voted against Obama because he's black, but when the vote was for Obama and his skin color, it can't be defined that way?
FWIW I don't vote the party line and have come to learn that I am more a centrist.
Obama was definitely an affirmative action president. He had no experience and wasn't qualified, but received the votes based on his skin color (or as Joe Biden would say, he was "clean and articulate"). Democrats are now seeing what a mistake their vote was. Should have been Hillary.
If it was Hillary, she'd be receiving the same complaints that Obama is getting. No difference. She'd be a socialist, tax and spender, big government, weakening our country, unqualified, only there because she's a woman, etc, etc.
I agree with your statement on Independents and the brain dead Repub's that voted for him but I think many white liberals fall into the "white guilt" category.
My thought is that they had enough of Bush and wanted to be part of something 'Historic'.
I had been to enough parties post inaugural wherein I heard a number of my older friends -- those who were big into the civil rights protests of the 60's -- talk about how their involvement in desegregating the segregated south helped bring about the possibility of Obama's presidency.
As an Hispanic individual who came of voting age when Carter was screwing up the country, I, too, was energized and can understand why Young, Impressionable Voters were swayed by Obama.
Young people are easily misled by the sound bite MTV "Vote or Die" mentality. Most (not all) have the attention span of guppies and are only interested in the flavor of the moment. Some of these individuals would have voted for P Diddy, or whatever Sean Combs is calling himself today.
I am on campus of a major university in my community. It was incredible watching young students become enthralled with Obama, not listening to his words, but the snippets about how Bush screwed up their future.
It is one thing to study a candidate's policy and then pull he lever to cast your vote to get the country back on track. It's another to vote for the hip black dude.
Funny how people can claim some voted against Obama because he's black, but when the vote was for Obama and his skin color, it can't be defined that way?
FWIW I don't vote the party line and have come to learn that I am more a centrist.
Of all the groups, college students give the most thought to what they want their votes to accomplish, as long as we're generalizing. The only group that would vote more judiciously would be the thoughtful segment of the group at the opposite end, seasoned senior citizen voters who know the score all too well. I don't know how you can generalize that young voters are shallow and fail to acknowledge that the lot I'm going to lump together as "Fox TV viewers" -- much older but still as distractable by teh shiny as if they were 18 -- do the same thing.
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