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Are you and your buddies here sure you know what anesthesiologists do in the operating room? You folks just don't want to see that many will leave medicine when Obamacare is instituted and for good reasons. You really think that nationalizing healthcare is an important part of our lives. When will you realize that if people wanted others to tell them how and what to do they would have just taken jobs somewhere instead of taking all the time and money to study medicine?
You progs really aren't making a lot of sense here except to each other.
Hey, the less doctors that are in the money that want to stay, the better. We can always replace these people with qualified doctors from all over the world that would do anything to live in the United States. I guess that's the main difference between progs and conservatives. When progs are dissatisfied with an aspect of American business, they recruit the best and the brightest from all over the world to live here and work. When conservatives are dissatisfied with an aspect of American business, they move their operations out of the country.
Research it. Look up the education levels of nurse practitioners, most of whom are doctorate level. If you want to pay a premium price to see your doctor for 10 minutes and get some half-ass prescription, go ahead.
June 2, 2010, 12:01 a.m. EDT
Nurse practitioners' growing role in your health care
Primary-care doctor shortage, health reform drives growth in NPs
Doctorates are not required. You can become a NP with a master's degree. I'm not knocking NP's and in fact give them the utmost respect, but they do not have the same minimum standards of training and educational requirements. They just don't. True, many are doctoral level, but did they go through 4+ years of residency on top of that as well? It's not a requirement.
Research it. Look up the education levels of nurse practitioners, most of whom are doctorate level. If you want to pay a premium price to see your doctor for 10 minutes and get some half-ass prescription, go ahead.
June 2, 2010, 12:01 a.m. EDT Nurse practitioners' growing role in your health care Primary-care doctor shortage, health reform drives growth in NPs
Correction: Most are NOT at the doctorate level, they've received their Masters only. The Doctorate level for the Clinical Nurse (as opposed to the traditional academia-based PhD) is relatively new, and few practicing Nurse Practitioners have it.
NP's will have a growing role...but as noted, they're not docs.
I'm sorry, doctors love to BS about how everything is going to be terrible, but the reality is, this isn't going to end up being a huge issue. It is a scare tactic.
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Look where we got the whole "universal medicine is communism" thing. It originates from the AMA in the 40's- not because they actually thought universal medicine is akin of communism, but because they didn't want to give up any control of the profession.
Socialism. And if you'd like to get on a list of how your treatment for any major medical issue is to be doled out (like chemo) move to the Netherlands.
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A lot of individual doctor's a great people. But be realistic- it is a field where they can basically charge whatever they want and we have to pay it. (One of the biggest reasons why American's pay more for health care than any other country? Our system charges the most by far.) And that is not something many doctors, an especially not groups of doctors, are happy about.
They can charge whatever they want but if they accept insurance, they don't get anywhere close to what they charge the insurance companies because the insurance companies deem what is "customary and acceptable".
My OB would have charged my insurance company 8K more than what she charged me for pre-natal and delivery. She charged me $2000K. I had insurance, I just didn't want to go to a baby factory OB practice.
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Of course, that makes them sound like jerks, so they use scare tactics to get what they want out of the public.
Maybe some do, but my favorite OBGYN...well, she dropped OB patients (after malpractice insurance went nuts) and 3 years later left medicine all together to be a real estate agent.
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Now, if you think doctors should be able to charge whatever the hell they want for their services, feel free to make that argument. But please, lets not makes this into something that it isn't.
How about making the argument for what it is? You really trust the government to run anything? At any level? How long does it take anyone to get anything "done" when going through government channels? I'll tell you: a loooong time.
How well are the already in place for decades social programs working?
To solve this problem, you would need to blow out the Medicare people.
The Democrats are not responsible for the demographics of our country but the Democrats are responsible about the demographics of our country.
If you ignore Medicare, and its costs, as the republicans do, the problem will not go away.
You don't get it. Obamacare is an extension of the Medicare problem. Politicians idea of cost control is to cut reimbursement to providers. You can only cut so much before people no longer want to deal with you.
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