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A civics lesson is in order I see. Whether the senate can overturn a veto is not dependent on the house "talking" the senate into going along. Both chambers need 2/3 rds of voting members to override a veto.
Maybe a comprehension lesson is in order. I understand the veto process. The point is that, not only is all of the house not going to overturn the president's veto, the Senate certainly won't and the house would need the senate votes along with theirs to get the veto over turned. That was my point.
Oh and let me add that I know that it takes 2/3 of congress, in case you didn't get that part but getting 2/3 to vote to overturn it is higly unlikely.
Baswcailly they know that any bill requires funding and the congress fund bills.They alos know that the states must implement much of the bill including fund their part of medicaid that will cover millio more. The healthcare bill can be changed which is the point really.Anyone ever noticed that most of the comprehensive immagration bill passed never was implemented. unfunded mandtes its called.
What the heck do you think we have been trying to spare you from all these months? What GOP has been doing is pulling the wool over the conservative voters eyes, AGAIN
No one pulled the wool over my eyes. What are you talking about ?
Yes, I'm against Obamacare but it will implode under it's own weight.
It's already happening as bits and pieces come online and the government has to hurry and allow exemptions and waivers.
I see it with 20% increase in premiums. Folks who couldn't afford it before now really can't afford it.
Go ahead and go back on this forum..find any post where I said the Republicans would repeal Obamacare if they got in..
What the heck do you think we have been trying to spare you from all these months? What GOP has been doing is pulling the wool over the conservative voters eyes, AGAIN
And you would prefer that to be the job of the hypocrate, er, I mean the Democratic party right?
I am stunned by how many conservative voters do not know basic Civics. Any repeal of Healthcare Reform Law is impossible, and the GOP lied to voters that they could do it. Even if GOP won both the House AND the Senate, repeal of HCR is impossible, because of President Obama's Constitutional veto powers. Now any phoney repeal endeavors by the House would be blocked by the Senate, and President Obama will never even have to veto such a bill.
Toldja to look up news and information somewhere responsible, NOT at the RW hate-blogs, and to turn off the Fox Channel. You didn't do it because you needed the hate and distractions the RW media fed you. And now look. Way to go.
Now look at what?
Whatever gave you or the op the idea that people aren't aware that repealing obamacare will not happen as long as obama is president and we have less than 2/3rds in house and senate?
That has been known ALL ALONG, but I guess you haven't been paying attention.
Oh, TP'ers. Your wishes and hopes are all sweet and lovely, but you let your uglier sensibilities be exploited and now you see you were bait-and-switched.
Toldja!
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I repeat, the buck stops at the Senate, such a "repeal" bill will be blocked and not even reach President Obama's Oval Office, let alone his veto pen!
arent you two sweet to remind us of the blatantly obvious
now let me hip you two, and other liberals, to a dose of reality. yes we know that obamacare will not be repealed until the republicans have a super majority in congress and the white house, or a veto proof majority in congress, and that is likely not to happen for at least two years.
another bit of reality, the republicans were put into office with a mandate to stop the spending madness, and lower taxes for everybody. they also have a mandate to reduce regulations to get the economy going again.
but they are also on probation, which is why congress is divided like it is. if the republicans do what they said they would do, that is roll back obamacare, taxes, spending, etc. then they will be forcing the democrats to go along or block. if the democrats go along, then it is up to obama to go along or block. if congressional democrats go along, they will likely end up getting reelected in 2012, if they block, they may end up like a lot of democrats did yesterday, out of office. same with obama. if he goes along, he will likely be reelected in 2012, if not he is a one term president.
what the democrats have done in the last two years is wake the people up from their slumber, and we will be watching everything that congress does. if the republicans screw up, they will go the way of the whig party. if the democrats screw up, they will become a minority party for a while until they actually learn their lesson, like the republicans seem to have done.
I am stunned by how many conservative voters do not know basic Civics. Any repeal of Healthcare Reform Law is impossible, and the GOP lied to voters that they could do it. Even if GOP won both the House AND the Senate, repeal of HCR is impossible, because of President Obama's Constitutional veto powers. Now any phoney repeal endeavors by the House would be blocked by the Senate, and President Obama will never even have to veto such a bill.
They will waste our tax dollars trying and then cry, "No fair!"
Really OP, just because YOU didn't realize the facts, don't assume others didn't.
Classic thread FAIL....AGAIN.
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