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Old 11-04-2010, 12:01 AM
 
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Way to deflect. Post the same tired old video of a woman with unrealistic hopes and expectations. Anything to avoid the topic at hands. Are you asking for someone to post those ignorant tea party signs or videos again? There are several of them floating around as well and some that will back up the title of this thread. Posting this video was sooo unnecessary and silly.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Way to deflect. Post the same tired old video of a woman with unrealistic hopes and expectations. Anything to avoid the topic at hands. Are you asking for someone to post those ignorant tea party signs or videos again? There are several of them floating around as well and some that will back up the title of this thread. Posting this video was sooo unnecessary and silly.
The OP's initial statement was already destroyed on the original "topic at hand."

Read from the first page.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am stunned by how many conservative voters do not know basic Civics. Any repeal of Healthcare Reform Law is impossible, and the GOP lied to voters that they could do it. Even if GOP won both the House AND the Senate, repeal of HCR is impossible, because of President Obama's Constitutional veto powers. Now any phoney repeal endeavors by the House would be blocked by the Senate, and President Obama will never even have to veto such a bill.
I am not stunned that you do not know the Constitution or have little morality. When is it moral to steal my money for your causes?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Toldja to look up news and information somewhere responsible, NOT at the RW hate-blogs, and to turn off the Fox Channel. You didn't do it because you needed the hate and distractions the RW media fed you. And now look. Way to go.
Riiiiiiiight the Tea Partiers were uninformed ones who fell for hope and change. How's that working out for you?
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:03 AM
 
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Now look at what?

Whatever gave you or the op the idea that people aren't aware that repealing obamacare will not happen as long as obama is president and we have less than 2/3rds in house and senate?

That has been known ALL ALONG, but I guess you haven't been paying attention.
You were talking about repealing it on some thread. Do you work for a big health insurance company? I mean, for money.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:21 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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If the senate won't go along (and many dems will now), to repeal it, it can be defunded by the House until it can be.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:36 AM
 
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Riiiiiiiight the Tea Partiers were uninformed ones who fell for hope and change.
Well, that's true. The TPers are uninformed and they do have hope and they do want change. Oh, you meant real hope and change. The WH's wakeup call will force them to communicate better with the R base -- they didn't seem to think that was necessary before, big mistake. So this adjustment was good for that reason -- also because the TP will be absorbed by the old-school Rs in Congress, after lots of fighting and ugliness, and because the Rs will either reveal even to the base that they're not interested in helping the country or they'll suddenly grow up and compromise with Obama. So yeah, it's working out fine, thanks -- for you too, even though you think you don't want it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:47 AM
 
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A civics lesson is in order I see. Whether the senate can overturn a veto is not dependent on the house "talking" the senate into going along. Both chambers need 2/3 rds of voting members to override a veto.
"Repeal" bill will die in Committee. President Obama will never see it!
Most bills do die!

(Btw, it is not necessary to tell us about 2/3rds bla bla bla to overturn bla bla a veto. We knew that already.)
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:50 AM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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aspie is probably correct in that the bill wont be repaeled by congress

on the otherhand, once it gets to the supreme court it will be found unconstitutional


the FEDERAL government can raise my taxes, and institute a new program(or ecxpand a program like medicade) for a singlepayer (very costly though, there is no way for us to pay for it, it would cost each tax payer about 20k a year)............................................. ...............but.......................the FEDERAL government CAN NOT MANDATE that the people BUY an INSURANCE policy from a PRIVATE companies or recieve a fine.......obamacare is UNCONSTITUTIONAL
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