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Old 11-11-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You got something right, good on you. But matters of US citizenship isn't part of international law, is it?
Obama is an American citizen by virtue of his mother (assuming he was born in Hawaii). But that isn't the issue, is it?
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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The Constitution has Law of Nations capitalized. Does this means it is the book Law of Nations?

You cannot have it both ways.
This logic thing new to you?

Somebody reasonably literate writing "law of nations" in the 20th century is very unlikely to refer to a specific text - he'd be capitalizing the title if he were.

But you can't assume that the opposite must be valid - that all capitalization must refer to the names of published works. Particularly not going back a few hundred years. A glance at the Constitution shows most nouns being capitalized, even in phrases that obviously do not refer to published works.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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This logic thing new to you?

Somebody reasonably literate writing "law of nations" in the 20th century is very unlikely to refer to a specific text - he'd be capitalizing the title if he were.

But you can't assume that the opposite must be valid - that all capitalization must refer to the names of published works. Particularly not going back a few hundred years. A glance at the Constitution shows most nouns being capitalized, even in phrases that obviously do not refer to published works.
The Law of Nations is domestic law in the US for the last 200 years....so said the Supremes a few years ago.

Do not attempt to spin it. The opinion mentioned Vattel 6 times. They wrote Law of Nations in caps...they said...any further mentioning is Vattel..meaning if its law of nations..it is Vattel.

This means Obama is illegal. We do not need to show naturals as natural born citizen in the 1758 Edition. Any edition of Vattel after 1787 shows Obama illegal..
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:12 AM
 
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The Law of Nations is domestic law in the US for the last 200 years....so said the Supremes a few years ago.

Do not attempt to spin it. .
then why hasn't congress or the supreme court seen it that way ???

or can i run to mexico/canada and kidnap some women ?

de vattel says i can.

own a gun? only if you are nobility.

.... again, de vattel.

....?????
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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then why hasn't congress or the supreme court seen it that way ???

or can i run to mexico/canada and kidnap some women ?

de vattel says i can.

own a gun? only if you are nobility.

.... again, de vattel.

....?????

Pssst don't let facts get in the way of completely asinine conspiracy thories...
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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The Law of Nations is domestic law in the US for the last 200 years....so said the Supremes a few years ago.

Do not attempt to spin it. The opinion mentioned Vattel 6 times. They wrote Law of Nations in caps...they said...any further mentioning is Vattel..meaning if its law of nations..it is Vattel.

This means Obama is illegal. We do not need to show naturals as natural born citizen in the 1758 Edition. Any edition of Vattel after 1787 shows Obama illegal..
You appear to be arguing, apparently with a straight face, that a specific translation of a French philosopher's work on international relations has the full force of law in the United States.

It's a bit like getting a geography lesson from the Flat Earth Society.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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You appear to be arguing, apparently with a straight face, that a specific translation of a French philosopher's work on international relations has the full force of law in the United States.

It's a bit like getting a geography lesson from the Flat Earth Society.
Foreigners are stupid by definition.

U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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You appear to be arguing, apparently with a straight face, that a specific translation of a French philosopher's work on international relations has the full force of law in the United States.

It's a bit like getting a geography lesson from the Flat Earth Society.
Vattel was used to form the states into the nation. Vattel's words were used in pamphlets and sent to the Colonists prior to the revolution.

Vattel gave us the 2nd amendment.

The US Supreme Court said..Marshall..The Law of Nations is the Law of the land.

The Law of Nations is in the Constitution. In the offense clause.

The Obots will distort history to protect their golden calf aka Obama.
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:28 PM
 
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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