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Old 11-25-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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Although I don't agree with the TSA, isn't the hyperbole a bit much?
I look at it as a cheap x-ray that is an extra health care benefit.
I don't know WHY they're not using MRI.

What if the terrorist just swallowed the explosive and ran the detonator wire up the esophagus to a mercury filling?

All's he'd hafta do is bite down to an opposite filling.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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As a veteran airline pilot I can attest to the necessity and safety of passenger screening.
I don't like it any more than you do, but we're all professionals...including the TSA. They like touching pax probably a whole lot less than some pax like the drill. So cut them some slack or take the bus....for now.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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As a veteran airline pilot I can attest to the necessity and safety of passenger screening.
I don't like it any more than you do, but we're all professionals...including the TSA. They like touching pax probably a whole lot less than some pax like the drill. So cut them some slack or take the bus....for now.
I don't think many, if any, people who do not agree or like the new rules are 'blaming' the actual screeners.
Any reasonable person understands these people obviously need a job & the new rules have made their jobs more uncomfortable & harder than before.

The anger is at TSA who did not provide proper training or some of the things we have recently seen wouldn't have happened.

The fact that they now have people putting their hands down travelers pants & feeling around without taking the hygiene aspect of changing gloves shows that they don't give a hoot about hygiene or anything concerning the public.
Do you know who owned the parent company that created the x ray machines ?
Nobody is going to tell me that the powers that be were 'worried' about our safety. If that were the case, it would have happened much sooner than this.
Sorta like locking the barn door After the chickens get out.
This is another step in the controlling of the masses.

Now on to the train stations please.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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I will never fly again.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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I don't think many, if any, people who do not agree or like the new rules are 'blaming' the actual screeners.
Any reasonable person understands these people obviously need a job & the new rules have made their jobs more uncomfortable & harder than before.

The anger is at TSA who did not provide proper training or some of the things we have recently seen wouldn't have happened.
You sure put a lota stock in "training".

People who can't think, need training.

A trained idiot is more dangerous than an untrained idiot.


I'll take a trained dog any day though.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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You sure put a lota stock in "training".

People who can't think, need training.

A trained idiot is more dangerous than an untrained idiot.


I'll take a trained dog any day though.
LOL......you do have a great point here come to think of it.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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First of all EXCUSE the spelling error. I meant to type HYGIENE not what I put. Sorry about that. I wish I could correct the spelling in the title but I don't know how.

I brought up this notion days ago (when all the TSA posts were lumped together in a 100 page thread).... that TSA "officers" (as I think they are called) are probably spreading all sorts of germs from one passenger to the next after they grope one passanger and then the next without changing their gloves!

This World Net Daily article confirms my suspicians and even says bedbugs (and probably crabs and lice) is very likely being spread from one passenger to the next.
Spreadin' the glove: TSA infecting U.S.?

It is now being advised that you tell the examiner to put on a new pair of gloves BEFORE they examine you. I would make sure they take them out of a box or sterile package and not their own pockets as one TSA worker admitted to doing in the article.
Because sitting in the passenger seat of a civilian aircraft for several hours where someone else sat and someone else sat before that and someone before...doesn't expose you to anything.

Or sitting in the seat at a movie theater, a bus, a restaurant, or a hospital. Or any other public facility...

The bugs!!!

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Old 11-26-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Because sitting in the passenger seat of a civilian aircraft for several hours where someone else sat and someone else sat before that and someone before...doesn't expose you to anything.

Or sitting in the seat at a movie theater, a bus, a restaurant, or a hospital. Or any other public facility...

The bugs!!!

At least when you are sitting in the airplane seat, you have clothing on that offers some protection. TSA agents are placing their gloved hands inside people's pants and touching genitalia which could expose them and the next passenger to be screened to body fluids and/or blood (think menstruating women). These new procedures were implemented rather haphazardly and not all TSA agents are even changing their gloves. Do you want your genitalia to be touched with the same glove that has reached into someone else's pants who has STD or Yeast infections? The scanners do not automatically exempt you from the enhanced pat downs as many travelers have experienced so this is a real, legit concern.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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At least when you are sitting in the airplane seat, you have clothing on that offers some protection. TSA agents are placing their gloved hands inside people's pants and touching genitalia which could expose them and the next passenger to be screened to body fluids and/or blood (think menstruating women). These new procedures were implemented rather haphazardly and not all TSA agents are even changing their gloves. Do you want your genitalia to be touched with the same glove that has reached into someone else's pants who has STD or Yeast infections? The scanners do not automatically exempt you from the enhanced pat downs as many travelers have experienced so this is a real, legit concern.
Is this actually happening?

[genuine question]

If they are, then a pair of new gloves is in order (that is reasonable). For everything else, they don't need to change gloves.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Is this actually happening?

[genuine question]

If they are, then a pair of new gloves is in order (that is reasonable). For everything else, they don't need to change gloves.
Uh ... Where have you been?

Airport pat-downs: 'Invasive' pat-downs continue for holidays - latimes.com
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