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INHO - Some governments start out as tyrannies and some as republics. All corporations have always been hierarchical tyrannies and always will be. In my life, I have never had the government tell me to stop speaking but I have had companies tell me what to wear, not to grow a beard, what not to say (I was advocating for a Union) as well as telling me to work overtime for regular pay.
I do not think the government will become a tyranny until the corporate America is a complete reality. We are getting closer this that every day. Just look at the way the airline industry has foisted the responsibility for their passengers safety on the government instead of providing their own security forces.
Don't you know that the founding fathers MANDATED public schools as soon as 50 families settled in an area? another thing, don't you know that in libraries in communist countries you can't just pick up anything and read? Prying eyes are everywhere, and I don't mean Orwellian, dystopian eyes. I mean in a country like Cuba, you are actually stopped and asked, Where are you going?" Should your answer sound suspicious, interrogations and harrassment await!
DanishGuy- I have been thru this same line of trying to reason with people countless times on this forum. The people who scream when they see socialism, like its the boogeyman, really don't like or are incapable of looking at the social democratic systems of Sweden, Denmark and Norway. And if they do try to look into it, they inevitably find one stupid youtube video that makes a Scandinavian city look like its on the verge of apocalypse with immigrants looting the stores. As you and I both know, Scandinavians obviously have their criticisms for their own country, but often, have an even more biting tongue for what they see in America (tons of poverty, taxes that dont appear to reap much in return, high rates of ignorance- politically and historically).
Its as if peoples minds just repel the thought of social democracy actually working. Maybe they're mad because they cant actually afford to take a break and visit these beautiful countries and see 1st hand whats going on.
If you want blame anyone, it should lay squarely on the feet and shoulders of the corporate masters and free-market fanatics and even on the capitalist system itself. Fact of the matter is, communism as a potent force and rival ideology would not have ever existed if it weren't for the EXTREME abuses of corporate executives and industrialists in the earlier part of the past century. Not to mention the horrendous working conditions and virtual slavery endured by the working classes that was explicitly detailed by such people as Upton Sinclair and other noteworthy folks...
As it is often, we have seen the enemy and it is US....
If I was that unhappy with my country I would leave to another country.the ENEMY IS NOT US, IT IS YOU GUYS ON THE LEFT WHO CREATED ENEMIES IN THIS COUNTRY,BY TRYING TO CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIFE AND FUDAMENTLY TRENSFORM US INTO SOME KIND OF, DARE I SAY,A COMMUNIST COUNTRY. WHAT YOU ARE DISCRIBING IN YOUR POST, IS CHINA, 1 BIG CORPORATION. TRY LIVING OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEAR THEN COME BACK AND TELL US HOW GOOD IT IS!!!!
Nice try! I actually give a lot of my money to charity. Last year, I got rid of everything I don't need or use, and I donated it to charity. I sleep on a futon, and I'm happy with that. I don't overconsume, either. These Tea Party conservatives are using the exact same scare tactics several white supremacists used in post-apartheid South Africa. They're afraid they're going to lose their white privilege now that we have a black President. I know how racist Sarah Palin is though she'll never admit it. And for what it's worth, I'm not even Christian. I'm actually an atheist because if there was a god who really did care, he'd do something about our society. Organized religious groups are such hypocrites. They like to hide under the guise of family values.
Even in the Bible Jesus said something along the lines of "Blessed are the poor, woe the rich." He also stated it was easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. You're like any other conservative in that you suffer from what I call "projectile dysfunction" meaning you project unto others your own flaws and things you don't like about yourself. That sort of defeats the purpose of being a good little Christian because somewhere in that holy book it says, "Judge not less ye be judged yourself." Like I said, I'm not a Christian, but I was an anthropology minor in college, and I did study religion.
Whatever you do in your private life is your own concern, and however you justify your perch atop your high horse is also totally up to you. Either way, there you sit, casting down judgment upon the masses.
No, he's right! He knows what he's talking about. Even I explained to you that things are REGULATED under socialism not dictated. That's a big difference. I know the filthy rich probably think it's dictation when they actually do have to pay taxes and play their part. Communism is when everything is state-owned. Unfortunately, we have this mindset in America where it's considered socialism whenever we help out the poor and working class, yet it's good for business when we help out the rich. Maybe he does want to start his own business, but everywhere he looks, Wal-Mart comes to town and run out all the mom-and-pop stores.
...and the "mom and pop" stores ran out the traveling salesman and the street vendor. So what's your point, that when a better way to do things comes along we should cast it out in favor of less efficient and wasteful ways of the past? Walmart is efficient, doesn't socialism appreciate efficiency?
Most Tyrannies start by denying they exist. The existence of corporatism in America is well hidden but the effects are readily apparent. Wal-Mart controls its suppliers, cheats its workers and fools its customers all for its own profit by effectively becoming a monopoly. Wal-Mart has become a tyrannical government without any constraint by our citizens. It is just one example.
At least we on the left know how to spell and use correct grammar and syntax. We value education, and we don't wish to see it placed on the back burner because we realize it's more important than even the military. Educated people from the left are able to read through the lines and realize what FAUX News preaches is baloney.
I don't think the left values education, look what they've done to it. Now even college graduates have high illiteracy rates. Education in the USA is falling, our students do very poorly when compared with most of the world. And we throw tons of money at education.
The War on Poverty set up by liberals also isn't working. We're wasting many billions on it and poverty is rising. In many parts of the country, more children are born into welfare programs than to taxpayers.
Government has functions of which is followed in the constitution.
Also we must understand and scope the issues of federal and state governments.
Social Security is not in the constitution.
Roads are maintained usually via state and local taxes. Of which if you disagree with you can move out the state and find cheaper taxes or take local and state political action.
As far as the military goes that is in the constitution but defending the rest of the world is not. We also are not suppose to go to war without a declaration and vote from the congress. We need a good defense not standing armies and bases around the world its not in the constitution and not to be funded to do so.
So in the end funding the constitutional programs and ending the ones made up by presidents and congress who had no constitutional authority over everyone's income and creating a nanny state is the problem.
Government has functions of which is followed in the constitution.
Also we must understand and scope the issues of federal and state governments.
Social Security is not in the constitution.
Roads are maintained usually via state and local taxes. Of which if you disagree with you can move out the state and find cheaper taxes or take local and state political action.
As far as the military goes that is in the constitution but defending the rest of the world is not. We also are not suppose to go to war without a declaration and vote from the congress. We need a good defense not standing armies and bases around the world its not in the constitution and not to be funded to do so.
So in the end funding the constitutional programs and ending the ones made up by presidents and congress who had no constitutional authority over everyone's income and creating a nanny state is the problem.
So you have a problem with institutions like NASA for space research and NIH for biomedical research? Do you have any idea how many private companies these two agencies have spawned? The amount of money we invest in science and technology is a pittance compared to our bloated defense spending. Just take a look at how much China is spending in science and technology research and infrastucture compared to the US. We are falling waaay behind.
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