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My first thought is..... Jesus, what's with the RED FONT????? It kills my eyes just to look at it. The only thing that could possibly have been worse would have been red font with ALL CAPS. Yeeesh.
Anyway, that having been said. I would give up everything for my freedom. I do not care a fig for libraries or fire departments if it means that I must give up my individual freedom to choose. Sorry. My FREEDOM is the most important thing in my life and people have DIED for more than 200 years for it.
It would be a slap in the face to everyone who has fought and served to keep our nation free of tyranny. Give your head a shake man. NOTHING is more important. Nothing.
20yrsinBranson
First, 20yrs i like your posts and mean no disrespect.
But, I think it is helpful to be a little more specific than to say that we love our “freedom.” Every nation-state, to garner loyalty, must have its people think they are “free.” For example, here are some excerpts from the anthem of the USSR:
An unbreakable union of free republics,
Glory to the Fatherland, united and free!
Through tempests the sun of freedom shone to us..
China:
Our aim shall be:
To found, a freeland,
Iran:
Your message, O Imam, independence, and freedom, the purpose of our lives,
No doubt that what you like is more specific than mere “freedom,” and those specifics I think may make for interesting conversation.
I was actually adding more into my note when you replied. So I take it you don't mind throwing away hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on a new stadium instead of more schools and better roads? Neither John Boehner nor Mitch McConnell have come up with a solution to fix the economy. All they're doing is trying to sabotage everything Obama does.
As a rule, I believe government should have little involvement in society. Our system is a bureaucracy and it was designed that way for government to be inefficient, slow, and powerless. Having government manage things results in poor performance, wasted expense, and allows for private interests to have too many means to influence government policy ultimately resulting in loss of liberties of the individual.
So, both should be private industry and the only roll city and state should have in the issue is through "promotion" of issues, not managing them and dictating to its people.
Actually I watched two documentaries. One was Capitalism: A Love Story by Michael Moore, and the other was called Maxed Out. It talks about how the credit card companies are unregulated and jack up the rates to keep people in debt. Thanks for asking! I'm sorry if you think every station but FOX News has a liberal bias while FOX is all neutral.
Moore consistently misrepresents the facts and has been shown such in extreme detail on every movie he makes. Why people quote him as a source is beyond me as there is nothing informative to gain from his material. Its propaganda garbage, nothing more.
As a rule, I believe government should have little involvement in society. Our system is a bureaucracy and it was designed that way for government to be inefficient, slow, and powerless. Having government manage things results in poor performance, wasted expense, and allows for private interests to have too many means to influence government policy ultimately resulting in loss of liberties of the individual.
So, both should be private industry and the only roll city and state should have in the issue is through "promotion" of issues, not managing them and dictating to its people.
I agree to a certain extent. It's not the role of govenment to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, nor should they or anyone else have the right to tell us we can't marry someone of the same gender. Gay couples marrying have no bearing on the economy. However, the government is also supposed to look after the working class and the poor rather than just the rich. It's not their job to run the country like some large corporation and let lobbyists and CEO's enforce all their plutocratic ideas on everyone else like the Reagan Administration did. I don't know how you think that's propaganda by what Moore covered in his film, but it's factual. If it was all hogwash, Moore wouldn't have won several awards at the Cannes Film Festivals on more than one occasion.
Did you watch the rise of Hitler on the History channel? That is national socialism and Hitler became Germany's dictator. Not good. I had a hard time watching it. Hitler looked so mad and he was a mad man but those around him couldn't see it. Scary.
Hitler took over with promises of utopia. There is no utopia out there, only a good life if one works for it.
The history of Nazi's is not the only example of how socialism has functioned in different parts of the world.
I am noticing a trend, however, of "conservative" Americans constantly referring to Hitler when they simultaneously warn of the shadow of socialism across America. It's honestly both sad and laughable. If anyone has read up on their history, they would not compare this era of Germany's past to America's current struggles. It's actually nauseating to think people are comparing the two.
The history of Nazi's is not the only example of how socialism has functioned in different parts of the world.
I am noticing a trend, however, of "conservative" Americans constantly referring to Hitler when they simultaneously warn of the shadow of socialism across America. It's honestly both sad and laughable. If anyone has read up on their history, they would not compare this era of Germany's past to America's current struggles. It's actually nauseating to think people are comparing the two.
Don't forget these are the same "conservatives" pumping everyone full of fear over us having a black President, gay soldiers, health care for non-whites that can't afford insurance, and Mexican immigrants coming to do the jobs nobody wants. I found it ironic how Meg Whitman ran an anti-immigration campaign right after she fired her housekeeper. I see a big pattern here and that is many suffer from "projectile dysfunction." They accuse the liberals of being like Nazis, yet none of us serve any of their racial and homophobic prejudices. That sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
The history of Nazi's is not the only example of how socialism has functioned in different parts of the world.
I am noticing a trend, however, of "conservative" Americans constantly referring to Hitler when they simultaneously warn of the shadow of socialism across America. It's honestly both sad and laughable. If anyone has read up on their history, they would not compare this era of Germany's past to America's current struggles. It's actually nauseating to think people are comparing the two.
Interesting ...
To recap, consider the following campaign platform:
- We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.
- The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:...an end to the power of the financial interests.
- We demand profit sharing in big business.
- We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.
- We demand...the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.
- In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education
- The government must undertake the improvement of public health
- [We] combat the...materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good
Do you agree with many of those statements?
If so, you would have elected the Nazi party.
Source: Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente 1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31
Don't forget these are the same "conservatives" pumping everyone full of fear over us having a black President, gay soldiers, health care for non-whites that can't afford insurance, and Mexican immigrants coming to do the jobs nobody wants. I found it ironic how Meg Whitman ran an anti-immigration campaign right after she fired her housekeeper. I see a big pattern here and that is many suffer from "projectile dysfunction." They accuse the liberals of being like Nazis, yet none of us serve any of their racial and homophobic prejudices. That sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
Are these YOUR words or have you memorized Moore's talking points ?
To recap, consider the following campaign platform:
- We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.
- The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:...an end to the power of the financial interests.
- We demand profit sharing in big business.
- We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.
- We demand...the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.
- In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education
- The government must undertake the improvement of public health
- [We] combat the...materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good
Do you agree with many of those statements?
If so, you would have elected the Nazi party.
Source: Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente 1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31
Ok, excuse my apparent ignorance. But if you are alluding to the fact that our current gov has ideas in alignment with this- how would it have been different with a Republican candidate in office, in your opinion. Which points would have changed.
By the way, despite your "evidence", no, I see no similarity in the NAZI party and the current American administration. Especially the last point about combatting the materialistic spirit "within and without us." I don't think ANY American president could successfully combat that spirit in Americans! It would take a MAJOR catastrophe for Americans to evaluate their materialism.
Also, persecuting the Nazi admin for
-demanding care for the aged
-undertaking improvements of public health...
etc....is a particularly strange angle to go. I always perceived that the main angle for condemning the NAZIS was the fact of their crime of genocide and slaughter, not their health care issues. If you try to compare it to the US situation, its really a mind boggling failure.
And if you truly think it DOES compare, then who, I should ask, should fear the chopping block? If you think America is on the route that Germany saw in the early Nazi era then who, do you predict, will suffer the worst consequences of the "tyrannical and socialist" admin that is the United States government?
IDK if it's Moore's or Maher's, but I sure do wish his crayons would break already..
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