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Old 01-10-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: California
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She has here opinion, doesn't mean it's a fact or that anyone with a brain has to believe it.

 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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Are you saying they should take blame? Why?

And, are you denying that the left, bloggers, and the median did not from the very first we heard of this event begin to link it with the "tea party" and Palin?
Of course they should take the blame. They are way too gun happy and bombastic. Probably why Roger Ailes told his crew to chill out.

Roger Ailes: “Tone it down” - On Media - POLITICO.com
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:04 PM
 
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1. The far right has a monopoly on hating the government. This isn't the 60's in case you haven't noticed.

2. He said he won't pay debt unless it's backed by gold and silver. Sounds like a Glenn Beck viewer. Guys like Ron Paul have warned against paper money. Ron Paul: See I Told You, Paper Money Is Worthless

3. It sure is. Conservatives are always complaining that liberals are trying to censor them and our nation is way to PC.

4. A conservative Democrat to the far right is still a liberal. Why did she get her office vandalized during the health care debate? She was for health care reform by the way.
But then you have:

Flag burning.

Fan of anti-flag.

The Communist Manifesto as a favorite book.

Trutherism.

So clearly, this man's politics were all over the place and incoherent. It would be as wrong to blame "the left" as it is to blame "the right". Yet the media immediately linked the shooter to Palin and the tea party.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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Of course they should take the blame. They are way too gun happy and bombastic. Probably why Roger Ailes told his crew to chill out.

Roger Ailes: “Tone it down” - On Media - POLITICO.com
So you have evidence that the killer was influenced by gun happy and bombastic rhetoric? Let's see it.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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All of you who are blaming the left or the right are being childish, immature, and irresponsible. You're lowering the political discourse in this country even further. There's nothing admirable about what you're doing.
Agreed. This person was insane. He could have latched on to leftist ideology, rightist ideology, or a belief that aliens were controlling his actions. The shooting was a tragedy. Anyone who tries to exploit it for political points or to try and pass knee-jerk legislation from it should be rejected and shunned as a leper.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Agreed, he was a nut case and shot her for no reason other than he thought she was a "fake".

Read his reasoning: Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords | Mother Jones
That was a very good link.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: OKC
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The killers mom is Jewish.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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what exactly does a gun clip do? Is it like a hair clip for guns?
People that utilize terms such as that are automatically dismissed by me because they obviously have no clue about the topic.
Yup
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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But there's no evidence "the extreme right" had anything, anything to do with this.

There is evidence that the shooter was:

A 9/11 Truther.

He posted a video of the American flag being burned.

He is reported to be a fan of left-wing band anti-flag.

Now you tell me how these things fit in with the narrative that the killer is a conservative.
Sounds like a young person who is paranoid, to an
extreme. Paranoids are often attracted to
politics e.g. the need to have an enemy.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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Sounds like a young person who is paranoid, to an extreme. Paranoids are often attracted to politics e.g. the need to have an enemy.
Very interesting. And there's lots of evidence on this forum to back that up.
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