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Old 01-10-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: OKC
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"Libertarianism claims that freedom extends to all economic and social spheres and is limited only when it comes into conflict with the same rights of others."

So technically, since none of those interfere with the rights of other people...why not?
He was an atheist who took poetry classes and kept a dream journal. He smoked dope, listened to leftest punk music that advocated killing business people and the violence against the government. Supported John Kerry. He hated Bush and called the wars illegal. He was Half-jewish, by birth. He hated capitalism.

He didn't want to go on the gold standard. He wanted to create HIS OWN CURRENCY - and wanted you to have a currency, too. He thought dreams and grammar could be used as currency.

We was a schizophrenic, but he was a lefty. I don't think one had anything to do with the other, though.

 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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Yup, sounds like a right winger to me. And I mean in the sense of a libertarian right winger.
Let's not forget he tried to join the Military...
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oh bull sh-t. When the story was first posted on this forum the resident left wingers wasted no time blaming the right wing before the story could even be confirmed.

And now that we know the kid had a rather sick obsession with the Congresswoman, you can stop with the immaturity. He was ticked off because she did not answer one of his nonsensical questions at a political rally. And yet, there are still people like you floating about trying to use this tragedy for political gain.

Just accept the fact that the kid was unstable and that his politics had nothing to do with the attack. It was a personal vendetta.
The kid was clearly obsessed with politics so yes, politics did have something to do with the attack. He shot a democrat and now the politcal tables in American are turning.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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And all that stuff about grammar is from a right winger David-Wynn Miller.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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He was an atheist who took poetry classes and kept a dream journal. He smoked dope, listened to leftest punk music that advocated killing business people and the violence against the government. Supported John Kerry. He hated Bush and called the wars illegal. He was Half-jewish, by birth. He hated capitalism.

He didn't want to go on the gold standard. He wanted to create HIS OWN CURRENCY - and wanted you to have a currency, too. He thought dreams and grammar could be used as currency.

We was a schizophrenic, but he was a lefty. I don't think one had anything to do with the other, though.
Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Here
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The kid was clearly obsessed with politics so yes, politics did have something to do with the attack. He shot a democrat and now the politcal tables in American are turning.
Take your own advice there Champ.

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Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:40 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Beer helps me sleep at night.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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He was an atheist who took poetry classes and kept a dream journal. He smoked dope, listened to leftest punk music that advocated killing business people and the violence against the government. Supported John Kerry. He hated Bush and called the wars illegal. He was Half-jewish, by birth. He hated capitalism.

He didn't want to go on the gold standard. He wanted to create HIS OWN CURRENCY - and wanted you to have a currency, too. He thought dreams and grammar could be used as currency.

We was a schizophrenic, but he was a lefty. I don't think one had anything to do with the other, though.
The Liberty Dollar is an alternative currency founded by Libertarian Bernard von Nothaus.

Ron and Rand Paul have both spoken against war a number of times.

Many Tea Party figures have ranted about taking over the government and pushing it to an "Utterly Free" society devoid of government control. Including Newsmax who went nuts over the shooter as a lefty.

Many Libertarians have pushed for the legalization of drugs, including the recently defeated measure in California.

I didn't know poetry, heavy metal music, and journals were left wing only. That's news to me.

He is definitely crazy and fits in the role of extremist nutter that is beyond any rational definition in politics, but if you want to go around trying to assign him to moderates of any wing...stretching to the point of spinning fiction is often dangerous to your sanity.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Why are you people still continuing to rant on about him being left or right when the FACTS show he was just a nut case?

Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords | Mother Jones
 
Old 01-10-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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Geezus people, why not also say he was a woman hater besides all your other name calling?

He was a loony, PERIOD.
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