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Old 01-21-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Title pretty much says it all...

The reason I am asking is,if this is a good example of a gov't run health care system then perhaps it could simply be expanded to cover all Americans?

Instead of 'reinventing the wheel' just take this system(if run well of course) and expand it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Title pretty much says it all...

The reason I am asking is,if this is a good example of a gov't run health care system then perhaps it could simply be expanded to cover all Americans?

Instead of 'reinventing the wheel' just take this system(if run well of course) and expand it.
It is a good example of an acceptable minimum level of coverage.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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It is. And when the democrats tried to do something similar to what you're describing - single payer system, the public option - the republicans absolutely refused to play ball. The dems caved and compromised by replacing it with the republican individual mandate plan. The initial bill Pelosi crafted was fantastic - it was then butchered.

Personally I'd love to see the individual mandate scrapped and replaced by a single payer system or at least a robust public option. This is what polls show most Americans wanted and still want. The republicans will never allow it though.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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It is a good example of an acceptable minimum level of coverage.
So the coverage is good....it does seem to be from the little I have seen(MIL).

Is it good value for money?

What do you think of the copay part of it,reasonable or not?
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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It is. And when the democrats tried to do something similar to what you're describing - single payer system, the public option - the republicans absolutely refused to play ball. The dems caved and compromised by replacing it with the republican individual mandate plan.

Personally I'd love to see the individual mandate scrapped and replaced by a single payer system or at least a robust public option. This is what polls show most Americans wanted and still want.
I think whatever the stupidity is that was passed last year is just that,stupid.

But here is one thing,medicare only pays 80%,would you be fine with that?
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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Title pretty much says it all...

The reason I am asking is,if this is a good example of a gov't run health care system then perhaps it could simply be expanded to cover all Americans?

Instead of 'reinventing the wheel' just take this system(if run well of course) and expand it.
I thought that is what Obama should have done with health care reform. Just expand Medicare to cover everyone.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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I would have done a poll but I failed at it last time...

So most like the idea of making medicare universal.

Even though the recipient must come up with 20% co-pay?
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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I would have done a poll but I failed at it last time...

So most like the idea of making medicare universal.

Even though the recipient must come up with 20% co-pay?
Yes, it's a good plan. It covers most everything and most doctors accept it. If people don't want to pay the 20% they need to buy supplemental insurance, just like everyone on Medicare.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Title pretty much says it all...

The reason I am asking is,if this is a good example of a gov't run health care system then perhaps it could simply be expanded to cover all Americans?

Instead of 'reinventing the wheel' just take this system(if run well of course) and expand it.
The answer to the main question is... no. There is way too much private (corporate) interests involved even with Medicare. I do not see a coalition of such interest groups and government as being a good example. Better than what the rest of the populace must deal with? Probably.

A reformed medicare program for all would definitely be better, but not perfect, solution.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Okay....
Seems everyone who has replied think it is a good system,even though it is not 'free'(I know no system is) to the user,he/she must make arrangements to pay 20%.

Thing is,medicare cost $599,000,000,000 in 2008.
That is $599 billion.

And it covered 45 million people.
That is over $13,000 per person per year.

Right???
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