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Old 01-28-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Biden is the vice president, my vice president if he is complete idiot I would like to know... Now we know he is
Unbelievable! Here we are on the brink of possibly having Egypt taken over by Islamic fundamentalists and some are still pointing a finger at biden because of his comment. It's like the house is burning down and someone's complaining that they forgot to take out the garbage. Sheesh! It doesn't matter! get off the partisan BS.

Can anyone here in this thread name 1 country in the middle east besides Israel that is a true democracy? Just 1...........anybody? Egypt is a democracy by degree if you factor in the rest of the middle east crapholes. Egyptians had much more freedom and stability than any other ME country. And if Mubarak goes, I guarentee that they will have alot less freedom when the mullahs take over. And I predict that if egypt goes so will Jordan, Yemen and the prize....Saudi Arabia. Iran will be the main player and the price of gas will be 20.00 bucks a gallon if you can find any. We are on the edge of some very deep, worldwide dodo. Forget about Biden, we all better hope that Mubarak can restore order for the sake of our's, Israel's and the rest of the world's future.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama is now going to make a statement...


Unrest in Egypt | Page 3 | Liveblog live blogging | Reuters.com
"White House spokesperson says President Obama to make statement on situation in Egypt shortly."
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:27 PM
 
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Unbelievable! Here we are on the brink of possibly having Egypt taken over by Islamic fundamentalists and some are still pointing a finger at biden because of his comment. It's like the house is burning down and someone's complaining that they forgot to take out the garbage. Sheesh! It doesn't matter! get off the partisan BS.

Can anyone here in this thread name 1 country in the middle east besides Israel that is a true democracy? Just 1...........anybody? Egypt is a democracy by degree if you factor in the rest of the middle east crapholes. Egyptians have much more freedom than any other ME country. And if Mubarak goes, I guarentee that they will have alot less freedom when the mullahs take over. And I predict that if egypt goes so will Jordan, Yemen and the prize....Saudi Arabia. Iran will be the main player and the price of gas will be 20.00 bucks a gallon if you can find any. We are on the edge of some very deep, worldwide dodo. Forget about Biden, we all better hope that Mubarak can restore order for the sake of our's, Israel's and the rest of the world's future.
I'm not sure we are there yet. From the reports I have been reading and listening to, the fundamentalists are not a serious political force .......... yet. But I agree its a serious risk.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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Can anyone here in this thread name 1 country in the middle east besides Israel that is a true democracy? Just 1...........anybody?
Israel is not a Democracy. Hell, Israel doesn't even have a Constitution or a Bill of Rights. Israel will nuke itself before it allows any group other than Ashkenazi Jews to rule the country.

In truth, Israel is not a democracy | al.com

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Old 01-28-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Denmark
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I am confused- I believe the Egyptian people now want Egypt to become an islamic state, meaning it will no longer be democratic correct? This will not be good for us.
No you got it all wrong. The Egyptian people now want Egypt to become a democracy, meaning it will no longer be a US-sponsored dictatorship. So yea that will not be good for us I guess.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:45 PM
 
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Cyprus, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey would be the other countries in the mideastern region with some form of electoral democracy. Yemen has a form of democracy, though it doesn't appear to be working all that well. Iraq's "democracy" is something of a joke, and Lebanon has its share of trouble.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Denmark
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Cyprus, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey would be the other countries in the mideastern region with some form of electoral democracy. Yemen has a form of democracy, though it doesn't appear to be working all that well. Iraq's "democracy" is something of a joke, and Lebanon has its share of trouble.
Iraq was more of a democracy before the invasion than it is now. Al-Sadr will take over Iraq the minute the US pulls out.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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Unbelievable! Here we are on the brink of possibly having Egypt taken over by Islamic fundamentalists and some are still pointing a finger at biden because of his comment. It's like the house is burning down and someone's complaining that they forgot to take out the garbage. Sheesh! It doesn't matter! get off the partisan BS.
Maybe a bit hasty.

I can't believe Mubarak's statement.
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: VAGABUNDUS
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Breaking news, three private jets lifting off from Cairo airport. Money, money, money, must be funny, in a rich man's world!
That's acceptable looting I guess. Funny world!!!
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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US 'losing credibility by the day' on Egypt: ElBaradei

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US 'losing credibility by the day' on Egypt: ElBaradei
Didn't Axelrod come out and say the US has secretly fostered the opposition?

See, obama's stuck in a paralysis.

What kind of precedent will it set for other allies in the region if obama abandons a long time ally?

On the other hand, if he does throw Mubarak under the bus and radical factions take over Eqypt, he might be fostering WWIII.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...com+-+World%29

More Egyptian protesters demand that White House condemn Mubarak

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...egypt-1.340057

Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt

Who knew this is the kind of "smart" power obama was talking about when deciding to "reset" those relationships (that never really needed resetting in the first place).
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