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What about the ones that come through customs or across the border unannounced? What if they were lost in a "tragic boating accident"? Must I report that too? Get real.
Lost, stolen, sold, destroyed - reportable. Like your car - wrecked? Sold? Stolen? You'd report that, wouldn't you?
Maybe gun owners should have to buy liability insurance, then they'd WANT to report missing/sold/stolen guns.
Right, that's through a licensed firearms dealer. It's the private sellers at gun shows who are the potential problem.
I would really like to think that you're correct, but I'm afraid I don't have quite that much faith in my fellow man. And the people who fit your admirable definition of "responsible firearms owners" I fear are fewer than you think.
I deal with firearms owners all day, every day....I know for a fact that these people exist. You are confusing responsible firearms owners with those who are less than that. There is a difference and the good guys do exist.
The courts do say that you have to pass a background check. If that check takes time, you do not have the gun in hand, right? It's a right that is contingent on your qualification, or the lack of disqualification to exercise it.
For face to face transactions in free states, that is not the case. You must simply display your state driver's license to the seller. The seller is not obligated to perform any sort of background check. In NC, this is true for long guns but not pistols.
For face to face transactions in free states, that is not the case. You must simply display your state driver's license to the seller. The seller is not obligated to perform any sort of background check. In NC, this is true for long guns but not pistols.
I think that some posters are confusing background checks with permits....
For example in the State of NC, you do not have to have a permit to purchase a long gun. You do however have to complete a 4473 and it is up to the dealer to call in a NICS check. For a handgun, you must have a permit or CCWP, complete the 4473 and the dealer may or may not call for a NICS check.
Such laws only impact the law abiding. The criminals would continue to buy and sell when and where and how they wish, and you'd never know about it. I could go out right now and sell a gun to someone if I wanted to, and who would know I did it? You can't have police watching our every move, so such a law would be worthless.
Yes and you could do that. Which is why we need federal registration of all guns, and if a gun you purchased legally and then sold off you would be held responsible if any crime was committed with that gun.
Most of the illegal guns are from legal gun purchases then sold on the black market.
Yes and you could do that. Which is why we need federal registration of all guns, and if a gun you purchased legally and then sold off you would be held responsible if any crime was committed with that gun.
Most of the illegal guns are from legal gun purchases then sold on the black market.
LMAO
And how would you know if I never registered my guns? With all the millions of guns out there now, not all would be registered.
And how would you know if I never registered my guns? With all the millions of guns out there now, not all would be registered.
Perhaps it can be grandfathered in, all guns sols after a certain date must be registered, all guns sold prior to the date won't have to be. The registration would be automatic as part of the background check.
No -they sold guns to people who said they couldn't pass a background check but could, seeing as how they're cops and all.
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Originally Posted by Cavaturaccioli
Pay attention.
From the NYT article:
Aides to the mayor said that private detectives who were former law enforcement officers carried out the video investigations, not current police officers.
You can not obtain or hold a license as a private detective if you can not pass a background check.
Capisci?
It is you who needs to pay attention. My post was in reference to your post , "they sold guns to people who saidthey couldn't pass a background check ".
The article states, "The investigators participating in the mayor’s videotaped episode bought three guns, two of them after telling the Arizona sellers that they probably could not pass a federal background check.
Note the difference between the two. They couldn't and they probably couldn't.
Perhaps it can be grandfathered in, all guns sols after a certain date must be registered, all guns sold prior to the date won't have to be. The registration would be automatic as part of the background check.
That'll accomplish absolutely nothing. Pretty obvious gun grabbers are just looking for ways to cause problems for gunowners.
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