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Originally Posted by bigskydude
I don't mind if the government chooses to help others .. What I don't like though, is having to pay for someone elses stupidity .. I also don't like that people are never given the motivation to improve themselves.
As long as the government is willing to allow people to sit around on their fat asses, collect our money, and do nothing .. I will continue to have a problem with the welfare system.
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Originally Posted by gysmo
yes yes yes yes lack of self dicipline,they are not bad they dont deserve to be poor. but they are lazy,slackers unmotivated because they know uncle sam is there. and they are perfactly happy with what uncle sam gives them.
Kick out all the illegal aliens, there will be jobs. When we remove welfare from able-bodied people, they'll work. Hunger is a great motivator.
Kick out all the illegal aliens, there will be jobs. When we remove welfare from able-bodied people, they'll work. Hunger is a great motivator.
That ^^^ is an illusion. One you've learned from the conservative media out there and the conservative talking heads on radio and TV. But it's still an illusion. There are NOT ENOUGH JOBS for "able-bodied" people who do not have extensive formal education or training. Those types of jobs are long gone. And they are not coming back, thanks to those uber wealthy guys who put out all that "personal responsibility" propaganda for everyone.
Btw, would you have advocated kicking the Cubans out when they came over in the early 1960s?
Kick out all the illegal aliens, there will be jobs. When we remove welfare from able-bodied people, they'll work. Hunger is a great motivator.
I am all for the rule of law. where are those dems from wisconson that ran like rats.some example for Americans, if you dont like the laws just break them. I do not believe there are 40 million Americans needing help that's ridiculous!!!
That ^^^ is an illusion. One you've learned from the conservative media out there and the conservative talking heads on radio and TV. But it's still an illusion. There are NOT ENOUGH JOBS for "able-bodied" people who do not have extensive formal education or training. Those types of jobs are long gone. And they are not coming back, thanks to those uber wealthy guys who put out all that "personal responsibility" propaganda for everyone.
Btw, would you have advocated kicking the Cubans out when they came over in the early 1960s?
Well, actually I am talking about the jobs illegal aliens do, that Americans won't. If our able-bodied masses would do those jobs, and pay some taxes, life would be easier for all. Then their 'self-esteem' would rise to the mountain-tops. They could buy some more nutricious food, and become like all of us 'lucky people', one big happy family.
I am all for the rule of law. where are those dems from wisconson that ran like rats.some example for Americans, if you dont like the laws just break them. I do not believe there are 40 million Americans needing help that's ridiculous!!!
Well, actually I am talking about the jobs illegal aliens do, that Americans won't. If our able-bodied masses would do those jobs, and pay some taxes, life would be easier for all. Then their 'self-esteem' would rise to the mountain-tops. They could buy some more nutricious food, and become like all of us 'lucky people', one big happy family.
I don't really know very much about the illegal alien issue, but I have always wondered about how companies get away with hiring them if they are "illegal".......and WHY companies would hire them and break the law by doing so.
As for Americans who "won't do" those jobs, do you think the jobs would actually pay enough for someone to pay rent and eat? What do companies pay illegal aliens to work? Do you know?
That ^^^ is an illusion. One you've learned from the conservative media out there and the conservative talking heads on radio and TV. But it's still an illusion. There are NOT ENOUGH JOBS for "able-bodied" people who do not have extensive formal education or training. Those types of jobs are long gone. And they are not coming back, thanks to those uber wealthy guys who put out all that "personal responsibility" propaganda for everyone.
Btw, would you have advocated kicking the Cubans out when they came over in the early 1960s?
Sure there are day labor jobs everywhere. People could do handyman work, gardening and so forth.
Problem is IMO many Americans don't consider all jobs honorable.
And PS, you better learn to be personally responsible for yourself because no one else but maybe your mother cares about you because they are too busy being personally responsible for their own lives.
Wealthy IMO can be paying off your bills and saving some money, not everyone is going to be a tax lawyer making $800 an hour with twenty homes from his 80 hours a week of work. Those people are rare IMO.
I don't really know very much about the illegal alien issue, but I have always wondered about how companies get away with hiring them if they are "illegal".......and WHY companies would hire them and break the law by doing so.
As for Americans who "won't do" those jobs, do you think the jobs would actually pay enough for someone to pay rent and eat? What do companies pay illegal aliens to work? Do you know?
One party wants them legal because the poor almost always votes for them and gets on social programs as well.
That is why promised fences stop being built and why there are no round ups or confiscation of cars when stopped without insurance or driver's license.
Democracy is doomed when politicians learn to bribe people with their own money.
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