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Old 02-23-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Terra firma
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Don't we Americans have a constitutionally protected right to freedom of assembly and due process?

Jeez... what happened to this country? I don't recognize it anymore.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Don't we Americans have a constitutionally protected right to freedom of assembly and due process?

Jeez... what happened to this country? I don't recognize it anymore.
Suggesting people be shot generally is viewed like yelling fire in a crowded theater.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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It looks like we have another one that needs fired! Don't these nuts know they will be quoted?


Democrat urges unions to 'get a little bloody when necessary'
By Michael O'Brien - 02/23/11 07:57 AM ET

Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin.
Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) fired up a group of union members in Boston with a speech urging them to work down in the trenches to fend off limits to workers' rights like those proposed in Wisconsin.
Let me help you out here buddy.

"I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going," Capuano said, according to the Statehouse News. "Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."

From your own link, which you seem to have left out.

It may have been a poor choice of words for a motivational speech but he clearly was not explicitly calling for the opposition to be target practice just for exercising their right to dissent.

And you also seem to have grossly overlooked, yet another important tidbit:

"On Wednesday afternoon, Capuano issued a brief apology: "I strongly believe in standing up for worker rights and my passion for preserving those rights may have gotten the best of me yesterday in an unscripted speech. I wish I had used different language to express my passion and I regret my choice of words."

Jeez, violations of our constitutional rights should be loudly and strongly condemned, regardless of your ideological persuasion.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Let me help you out here buddy.

"I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going," Capuano said, according to the Statehouse News. "Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."

From your own link, which you seem to have left out.

It may have been a poor choice of words for a motivational speech but he clearly was not explicitly calling for the opposition to be target practice just for exercising their right to dissent.

And you also seem to have grossly overlooked, yet another important tidbit:

"On Wednesday afternoon, Capuano issued a brief apology: "I strongly believe in standing up for worker rights and my passion for preserving those rights may have gotten the best of me yesterday in an unscripted speech. I wish I had used different language to express my passion and I regret my choice of words."

Jeez, violations of our constitutional rights should be loudly and strongly condemned, regardless of your ideological persuasion.
Saying that democracy is a "bloody process" is a standard colloquialism--it's used all the time. It means that you have to "get bloody"--fight for your rights, and that sometimes it's a battle. I don't know of a single person who would take that literally, unless they were looking for something to take out of context. I do however think that tweeting by a state official over using live ammo on a crowd of peaceful protesters, and then when confronted on it, explaining that you meant it, is a problem.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) fired up a group of union members in Boston with a speech urging them to work down in the trenches to fend off limits to workers' rights like those proposed in Wisconsin.
There needs to be a recognition that there is a difference between the irresponsible speech of elected officials and those whose employment requires the absolute perception of impartiality and nowhere is this more true that when such employees are charged with the administration of justice. In this case the only appropriate comparison would be with the assistant Attorney General Andrew Shirvell who was correctly fired for his anti-gay blogging.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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Don't we Americans have a constitutionally protected right to freedom of assembly and due process?
Well of course we do, but we also have such things of codes of professional responsibility.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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He doesn't have a 2nd amendment right to shoot innocent protesters no matter how ignorant and worthless they are.
Well he sure thinks he does!
Jeff Cox via Twitter: "@AdamWeinstein Murder is by definition "unlawful," brainiac. Using force to clear out threatening individuals would be "lawful.""

Indiana Official: "Use Live Ammunition" Against Wisconsin Protesters | Mother Jones
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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Saying that democracy is a "bloody process" is a standard colloquialism--it's used all the time. It means that you have to "get bloody"--fight for your rights, and that sometimes it's a battle. I don't know of a single person who would take that literally, unless they were looking for something to take out of context. I do however think that tweeting by a state official over using live ammo on a crowd of peaceful protesters, and then when confronted on it, explaining that you meant it, is a problem.
I sure hope nobody tries to make this clown some kind of hero or martyr.

Unless he apologizes for his totally unwarranted and reckless comments, he does not deserve to have any high profile gov. position or have the nerve to think of himself as a public servant.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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I sure hope nobody tries to make this clown some kind of hero or martyr.

Unless he apologizes for his totally unwarranted and reckless comments, he does not deserve to have any high profile gov. position or have the nerve to think of himself as a public servant.
The Attorney General's Office had to fire him quickly or this would have been a nightmare for them. I hope he never works again.

Or...maybe at a non union job, like McDonalds or Walmart. That might be fitting.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It looks like we have another one that needs fired! Don't these nuts know they will be quoted?


Democrat urges unions to 'get a little bloody when necessary'
By Michael O'Brien - 02/23/11 07:57 AM ET

Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin.
Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) fired up a group of union members in Boston with a speech urging them to work down in the trenches to fend off limits to workers' rights like those proposed in Wisconsin.

He's a Dem, it took place in Mass, and it was a union rally.

That said....no harm/no foul

Nothing will be done.
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