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teachers perform a uniquely important job - educating future generations of americans. They work long hours, are under respected and under appreciated. They need summers off to unwind and prepare for the coming school year. They should not be forced to contribute to their health insurance. They have earned their pensions and should not be forced to delay retirement to age 60 or 65.
Teachers perform a uniquely important job - educating future generations of Americans. They work long hours, are under respected and under appreciated. They need summers off to unwind and prepare for the coming school year. They should not be forced to contribute to their health insurance. They have earned their pensions and should not be forced to delay retirement to age 60 or 65.
Give teachers a break!
the public education has failed us. We should not pour unlimited money into a system which does not work the way it was suppose to
I take it most of you didn't get the snarkiness intended by the OP? He was making fun of educators--not supporting them
I had a feeling he was, but I wasn't completely sure. My response was just as a response to the "there is absolutely no way we could ever pay teachers too much".
They work long hours for little money and in unsafe environments.
To educate our next generation.
Teachers is the only hope this country has. Yet, they are treated with disdain.
They were never treated with disdain until they put themselves on a pedestal and told eveyone they are better then them.
Teaching is supposed to be a calling. A desire to give something back to the youth of this nation.. when you strike you remove all good faith..
When talking about pay I always hear whining from the teachers that they have these great degree's. As if they can just go out into the private sector and make a ton of money... We ALL KNOW thats BS!
They teach because its a good job, its easy.. IF ANY ONE of them could go do something else for more money that was easier.. they would do IT.. And striking removes any doubt of that!
It's pretty obvious they have their own self interest at heart and the ones who could make more money would!
This is the whole reason why the dept of education needs to be cut, ALL of these ridiculous requirements to be a Teacher need to revamped..
You need a masters degree to teach kindergarten?? really
My wifes family are all teachers.. they got it pretty sweet!
the public education has failed us. We should not pour unlimited money into a system which does not work the way it was suppose to
Well then please tell us what we do after we slash education budgets this year in the name of "fiscal conservatism/small government" in order to make a statement in time for the 2012 election?? What do we do this year right now, before enough private schools can be created?? How will people already living week to week afford that tuition?? Perhaps costs will eventually go down with more private schools popping up and increasing the supply, but then again the demand will be sky high as we continue to cut public education across the board.
We've heard a lot of the "cut spending now" mantra, but I've heard absolutely nothing about how to deal with the consequences incurred by all parties involved, students, teachers, and families alike. Would one, just one of these folks out there like Rick Scott of Florida, please suggest how we make these immediate cuts (instead of gradual ones) without harming innocent students? Or is it not worth a measly few billion dollars for the next budget cycle or two to give the private sector a chance to prepare to tackle the upcoming demand for quality education??
Yeah, but where I taught, and from my own experience and my own experience only, kids were only trained/taught to pass the tests. Entire blocks of American and world history were left out because they weren't going to be on the test. "Teaching for the test" was/is killing us.
Except that they are not being taught to pass tests. If they were, the majority of the students would be passing those tests. Instead, the majority of the students are failing those tests. So clearly they are NOT being taught to pass tests.
If you had a student who only got 33% of the answers right on their test, would you give them a passing grade? Why should teachers get a pass when two-thirds of their students cannot even meet the State's minimum educational standards?
Well then please tell us what we do after we slash education budgets this year in the name of "fiscal conservatism/small government" in order to make a statement in time for the 2012 election?? What do we do this year right now, before enough private schools can be created?? How will people already living week to week afford that tuition?? Perhaps costs will eventually go down with more private schools popping up and increasing the supply, but then again the demand will be sky high as we continue to cut public education across the board.
We've heard a lot of the "cut spending now" mantra, but I've heard absolutely nothing about how to deal with the consequences incurred by all parties involved, students, teachers, and families alike. Would one, just one of these folks out there like Rick Scott of Florida, please suggest how we make these immediate cuts (instead of gradual ones) without harming innocent students? Or is it not worth a measly few billion dollars for the next budget cycle or two to give the private sector a chance to prepare to tackle the upcoming demand for quality education??
Teachers can not discipline or even fail kids without threats from parents and administrators. Most schools are so top heavy in administration that those are jobs that can be cut. A local high school I know have as an assistant principle in charge of Athletic college recruitment who teaches 0 classes. Most schools are so top heavy in administration that is one area that should be cut before teachers.
Teachers need parents to understand that if their kid is failing its not the teachers fault it is the kids fault. But our system is made that the most aggressive parents get their ways because we do not wish to hear from them. teachers are threatened by kids. I say we stop making school mandatory for kids after they turn 15. then give local control for discipline back to the local schools. Fire the top heavy administration.
I went to a public high school that had 800 per class and we had one principal on vice principal and we did not want to go see either, My English class had 50 kids in it. So many of our mandates in education our made for public consumption with no real effect on education.
Our system has failed to educate
Except that they are not being taught to pass tests. If they were, the majority of the students would be passing those tests. Instead, the majority of the students are failing those tests. So clearly they are NOT being taught to pass tests.
If you had a student who only got 33% of the answers right on their test, would you give them a passing grade? Why should teachers get a pass when two-thirds of their students cannot even meet the State's minimum educational standards?
Hey why should dentists get paid if their patients don't go home and floss, and brush enough and then "fail" their exam which results in cavities. Like a dentist, a teacher can only do so much for a student, they can't take the test for them, or guarantee the student prepares at home, or makes sure the kid eats a healthy breakfast every morning. Some of these standardized tests are no joke yet very few students take the initiative to seek additional tutoring or take an at home study course. Somehow, people expect students to sit in class, be given a wealth of information in a group setting by one teacher, and then magically pass a very challenging exam. That's impossible and I think it says more about our students and their home life (personal responsibility) than it does the efforts of our teachers. Now are all teachers fabulous, no, but the low pay and stressful nature of the job tends to weed out most of the bad apples. Basing teacher job security on someone else's performance is like a real estate agent only getting paid if the buyers pay their mortgage, they made the sale, went to closing, the commission is theirs. Same with teachers, they taught the info, they put in their time and did their job like anybody else, they should get evaluated in that sense, not student performance.
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