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Old 03-19-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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She, like millions of others, then and now, did the right thing, but for the wrong reason.

A positive times a negative equals a negative.
EVERY VN vet I know [which includes two of my brothers] insist that Hanoi Jane did the wrong things. Regardless of her reasons.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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EVERY VN vet I know [which includes two of my brothers] insist that Hanoi Jane did the wrong things. Regardless of her reasons.
Your brothers were trespassing.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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They tried to disguise themselves so as not to appear a member of the military. They tried to travel in groups for protection in the USA. They felt safer in Guam and Philipines than in the state of California.
I lived in CA during Vietnam. Tell him his whitewall haircut gave him away.

If he felt unsafe in CA (which, honestly, I can't imagine and never heard before) he missed out on countless numbers of lonely high school girls hanging around Disneyland hoping to catch a Marine.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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I was draft age at the time. I think your use of most is highly inaccurate. Some of the population had an animosity towards soldiers, whether fighting in Vietnam or riding a bus across town. I take those people to be the same as, or of the same mindset as... well, what today we call liberals, or democrats. They opposed the war then, they oppose the war today. Code Pink comes to mind. Harvard and the ROTC.

It wasn't most who opposed Vietnam. Just the more vocal. Or as I actually view them, obnoxious.
It is the Right, many of whom never served in the military, that referred to returning Viet Nam vets as 'cry-babies'.
I was in the US Army during that period. I have no hard feelings against anyone who was in the military. I know many vets that were against the war.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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Your brothers were trespassing.
Good thing for them they didn't try that stunt in Montana.

They would have gotten their azzes shot off.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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EVERY VN vet I know [which includes two of my brothers] insist that Hanoi Jane did the wrong things. Regardless of her reasons.
There where better things to concern yourself with that went on in Vietnam rather than Jane Fonda. She was wrong for what she did, but anger should have been reserved for people like McNamara.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Fine....show me a record of one blotter report where a soldier charged someone with spitting on him and i'll buy it.

Until then, i'll stay steadfast in my belief that it never happened. Because it didn't. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

Do you honestly believe that any soldier took out the time to report, it was the 1960's, different time, different place. You are going to believe what you want, but you should talk to someone that was actually there to get the truth, the world was quite different.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I lived in CA during Vietnam. Tell him his whitewall haircut gave him away.

If he felt unsafe in CA (which, honestly, I can't imagine and never heard before) he missed out on countless numbers of lonely high school girls hanging around Disneyland hoping to catch a Marine.
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton from 1974 through 1980, and California during that time was very hostile towards anyone in the military. Much more so than any other state I visited during that time. So much so, we were ordered not to wear our uniforms off base, civilian cloths only.

Leftist freaks are cowards, of course, resorting to only slander. Had they resorted to violence, I would have gladly killed them in self-defense. All I needed was an excuse.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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How do I view Soldiers? As patriots who served thier Nation!
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Do you honestly believe that any soldier took out the time to report, it was the 1960's, different time, different place. You are going to believe what you want, but you should talk to someone that was actually there to get the truth, the world was quite different.
It did indeed happen. I did not serve in Vietnam. I volunteered in July 1972 and was sent to Okinawa after boot camp in December 1972. When I returned in January 1974 I flew into Hawaii on a military transport, and then switched to a civilian airplane to fly into San Francisco. I was wearing my Class A uniform and carrying my duffel bag, and had absolutely no problems with anyone in Hawaii. However, when I arrived in San Francisco that changed.

Even though I had never been to Vietnam, and never killed anyone, I was accused of being a "baby killer", had objects thrown at me, and was spit upon. And that was before I got out of the San Francisco airport.

If San Francisco were to be nuked tomorrow, I would not shed a single tear. I would be dancing in the streets.
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