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Old 03-17-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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Especially the corporate kind of welfare.............
Obama is all about corporate and lobbyist paybacks. It is a pay to play administration.
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:39 PM
 
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Obama is all about corporate and lobbyist paybacks. It is a pay to play administration.
Democrats do get bigger and more frequent donations from Big Business and Big Union, but has nothing to do with welfare reform IMO.

You simply limit the welfare to 6 months except for massively disabled people.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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Welfare should only be used as an emergency stop gap for people in between jobs. As it stands now, we are breeding an entire generation of useless people who will only be dead weight carried along by those of us who actually work for a living. What happens when their numbers exceed the productive members of our society?
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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Welfare should only be used as an emergency stop gap for people in between jobs. As it stands now, we are breeding an entire generation of useless people who will only be dead weight carried along by those of us who actually work for a living. What happens when their numbers exceed the productive members of our society?

Why we import more Mex-i-can's they are doing the jobs here no one wants... too many lazy white boys makin' babies they don't support,gettin' tooed, doing selling dope...
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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Good afternoon,

What I don't like about these "welfare reform" policies is that it creates class warfare. We need to eliminate public welfare from all areas, including corporate welfare, individual welfare checks, and unemployment checks. I do like the idea of giving people jobs instead of a check, but it must be a virtually guaranteed position to be effective.

There is not a uniform "lack of jobs" in all fields. We should train these people to work in "in demand" fields, hire them temporarily in public sector fields that have backlogged work. Even if it's "make work" public jobs, it's better than giving people a check. If there aren't enough public jobs, send them as temporary workers to promising private companies that cannot currently afford to expand and will repay the government plus interest for providing free labor once they expand and bring in profits.

Also, people should learn to move where the jobs are if they need a quick solution, like they did in the past instead of remaining in economically depressed areas waiting for politicians to turn things around. Voting with your feet eventually sends the message.

We should give tax breaks to companies who hire only Americans, and tax companies that send jobs offshore yet benefit financially from our nation's laws, or at least tax the finished goods that come back for our consumption. Even though a tax on these companies are passed down to us, the higher prices of their products and services will make it easier for American companies to compete. Once parity in domestic jobs has been reached, we should eliminate the "Hire Americans" corporate tax breaks and create a flat tax or consumption tax that's fair for everyone.
That is a great idea. However, the people on welfare will not be able to afford to relocate. Also, outsourcing really needs to come to an end.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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I agree with the GOP on this. I also think they should go after corporate welfare and red state welfare. You will get somewhere if you put that plus big cuts to defense on the table.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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Great idea. Let's start with the welfare for the rich.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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Welfare should only be used as an emergency stop gap for people in between jobs. As it stands now, we are breeding an entire generation of useless people who will only be dead weight carried along by those of us who actually work for a living. What happens when their numbers exceed the productive members of our society?
Absolutely. This is the bottom line of any/and all welfare. They are worthless leeches on society, sucking up social programs, which would be better spent on other, more productive members of society.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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Picking Up Where ’96 Welfare Reform Left Off

Today, Reps. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio), Tim Scott (R., S.C.), and Scott Garrett (R., N.J.) will introduce the Welfare Reform Act of 2011, a bill that would do much more than rein in exploding federal welfare spending. It also seeks to free millions of families, currently trapped in the welfare system, from a debilitating dependence on government.

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The legislation also would ease able-bodied recipients of government assistance off the welfare rolls and into jobs — the signature accomplishment of the limited 1996 reforms. The fastest way out of poverty, as the saying goes, is a job.


The last paragraph is the problem. There are very few jobs available now. So if these people are off of welfare... then what?

To me, you attempt to stimulate private/small businesses first so that jobs can open up - then they will be available for the people getting off of welfare.

I hope they know what they are getting into. Maybe I will send a note their way.
Well -- maybe if they'd look for jobs, there wouldn't have to be constant increase in immigration.

Immigration increased in 2010 -- something is wrong with that picture. Most likely not legal work sponsored immigration but we've got people pouring over the borders either to work or be added to the government welfare programs.
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Old 04-09-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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Why we import more Mex-i-can's they are doing the jobs here no one wants... too many lazy white boys makin' babies they don't support,gettin' tooed, doing selling dope...
Well far too often they head straight to the welfare offices themselves. How many illegals do you know are paying child support to the many babies they're makin'? Unwed motherhood is definitely higher among the Mexicans than for the white girls, over half of Mexican girls living in the USA have at least one baby, often 3 or 4 by the time they reach age 20 -- and how are they ever going to work if they can't afford the day care in this country?

And you certainly can't claim they aren't tattooed also, and aren't selling dope, because who do you think is bringing the tons of it every day over the border?
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