Why does this woman need a birth certificate when Obama doesn't? (extremist, program)

[ibarrio]

Birthers still exist?

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

Well she wants to be declared the oldest human on Earth by Guinness and he just wants to be President of the US. She was born in 1892 and not many black people were issued birth certificates back then. I think that a wholly black woman may be as certifiable as Obama is.

Cleveland woman turns 119 (http://news.yahoo.com/video/cleveland-wews-20910953/cleveland-woman-turns-119-24619593 - broken link)

Seriously, Roy - give it a rest!

[helenejen]

There's a well-argued, and, even more importantly, well-supported argument for why the race-as-African issue on Obama's birth certificate is moronic:

The African Race | Obama Conspiracy Theories

Please feel free to educate yourselves, not that that is the objective in this thread.

[Gary Siete]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

Birthers still exist?

Yes, they even have Trump on board now - you know - that family-values guy whose been married three times (including a mistress) and somehow managed to bankrupt a casino (a casino! - where supposedly "the house always wins").

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by helenejen

There's a well-argued, and, even more importantly, well-supported argument for why the race-as-African issue on Obama's birth certificate is moronic:

The African Race | Obama Conspiracy Theories

Please feel free to educate yourselves, not that that is the objective in this thread.

While I admit Obama holds a valid US Birth certificate, I find the linking you used to validate this to be seriously flawed. from your link..

This is the instruction for filling out a birth certificate from the National Center for Health Statistics:

1) The National Center for Health wasnt established until 1975, when Obama was 14 years old.
2) The form they are linking to as "evidence" when Obama was born, was revised in 2003..

Clearly the National Center for Health cant be used as evidence to confirm the validity of Obamas birth certificate since they wre non existant, and forms being used now, cant be used as evidence of the way things were 50+ years ago..

[RexRedux]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

No American hospital in the 60's would use the term African for race.

BS, try Negro or colored.

[helenejen]

Originally Posted by pghquest

While I admit Obama holds a valid US Birth certificate, I find the linking you used to validate this to be seriously flawed. from your link..

This is the instruction for filling out a birth certificate from the National Center for Health Statistics:

1) The National Center for Health wasnt established until 1975, when Obama was 14 years old.
2) The form they are linking to as "evidence" when Obama was born, was revised in 2003..

Clearly the National Center for Health cant be used as evidence to confirm the validity of Obamas birth certificate since they wre non existant, and forms being used now, cant be used as evidence of the way things were 50+ years ago..

1) The National Center for Health Statistics was established in 1960: National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - healthfinder.gov - NCHS
2) The instructions are problematic as we don't know what was revised, I agree. However, this doesn't mean that the process wasn't similar or even exactly the same in terms of race identification. I look forward to you providing the old instructions when you find them.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by pommysmommy

You crack me up. Father's race "African"? In which hospital was he born?

The certificate reflects what the parents gave as information. Obama Sr. referred to himself as Africa. Not black, not negro (which was used at that time), not African American (which wasn't a coined termed yet).

So, blame Barack Obama Sr. for saying he was African.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

No American hospital in the 60's would use the term African for race.

Since it wasn't the hospital that put that down. It was Obama's parents who listed their race as whatver they put.

Obama Sr. indicated that he was African. It wasn't a "list" of "choose your race" on the form.

[dcsldcd]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

Here it is:



He has shown it. This should be over. Keeping it alive only shows how ridiculous this whole line of argument is.

BOGUS FAKE! Even a copy has the state seal.