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Old 04-12-2011, 10:20 PM
 
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Another failure is spent fuel rod storage. Basically it is located on 4th floor and because of cracks everywhere it constantly loose water. When it loose water it overheats, catch fire and radioactive smoke goes into atmosphere.
I don’t want to use word “stupid”.. but combination “4th floor, water, earthquake” asks for the 1-st floor.
Also I would like to add word “greedy”. Those spend fuel rods should be recycled. Apparently somebody saved money on recycling, waiting.. for what? For possibility to cheaply sell it or dump it or something, I don’t know. Other “money saving thing” is absence of separate storage facility. Why to store it in the same nuclear plant? It should be stored in separate building!
My suggestion is to make whoever saved money on it go and remove those spent rods from there. They can use fancy Japanese robots, or use own hands, or commit hara-kiri..
Article about it: Why Fukushima’s “spent” fuel rods will continue to catch fire


Why Fukushima's "spent" fuel rods will continue to catch fire | MyFDL
What happens to Zirconium fuel rods that are constantly heated and cooled with water? They are in essence turned into Zirconium Oxide Rods that are very brittle.

Here is a demonstration from a Chief Nuclear Engineer on a Zirconium Fuel Rod minus the fuel of course.


Updates on Fukushima: | Fairewinds Associates, Inc
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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well, it certainly was NOT the workers giving their lives.
Mexicans? Or to be specific guest workers (illegal immigrants in Japan from China)? Yes, they work almost for free and nobody cares what is going to happens with their health.
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Very noble thing they are doing, but just to clarify, despite them increasing the threat level to a 7, this is no where near as bad as Chernobyl. The IAEA really needs to redesign their scale. While 7 is currently the highest, Chernobyl was equivalent to a 10 or 11.

kind of splitting hairs isn't it? oh you are going to die in 1 month vs you are going to die in 3 days... wow I can do so much more with my 27 days of skin falling off, and so forth....

DO NOT GO TO GOOGLE IMAGES AND SEARCH FOR RADIATION POISONING!



These people working at this plant are heroic. They will die a miserable death and quickly. Hopefully they will save others from the same fate so their efforts aren't in vain. Too many are placed in harms way as a few profiteers sell unsafe power to the world.
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:56 AM
 
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Mexicans? Or to be specific guest workers (illegal immigrants in Japan from China)? Yes, they work almost for free and nobody cares what is going to happens with their health.
Wow, I hope you are being sarcastic.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It is sarcastic, but it is true. Japanese call then "throw away workers" or "disposable workers". There is even special Japanese word for them. Mostly they are immigrants, homeless and even minors:

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According to ARD correspondent Robert Hetkämpfer the operating company of Fukushima has been sending in homeless and minors sends as "throwaway workers " in the nuclear power plant

ARD correspondent Robert Hetkämper brought up serious allegations against the operating company of the damaged nuclear power plant in Fukushima in Japan: Allegedly Tepco has been sending homeless people and migrant workers in the nuclear power plant in Fukushima for years.

"They are often homeless. There are many foreign workers, there are even minors there, to be there for years and then fired again if they have worked for a while and they have been exposed to a fair amount of radiation. Disposable workers they have been called here in Japan. "said Hetkämper.


http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/welt...rierte-AKW.html (broken link)
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Default Is there an update on these workers?

Very touching events...I certainly remember when it all went down...

But all updates seem to have ended around mid summer, as to the condition of these workers...

I'm just curious to know their current conditions...how many made it or are making it, and how many didn't...

It bugs me when stories like this suddenly end, just stop, and there's no follow through story or update...

I tried looking on the web, but again, all updates on their health status just seemed to end when the big news channels lost interest in reporting on it and the next big news item came along...
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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This is really little difference than a soldier giving his life so executives at Haliburton can become millionaires. These brave workers give their lives so GE and government officials can live a good life. It is rarely the 1% asked to sacrifice and even rarer when they do so voluntarily.

What a shame we don't value the lives of all equally.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:06 AM
 
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Very noble thing they are doing, but just to clarify, despite them increasing the threat level to a 7, this is no where near as bad as Chernobyl. The IAEA really needs to redesign their scale. While 7 is currently the highest, Chernobyl was equivalent to a 10 or 11.
I would disagree. The government and mainstream media is telling you this but its not true. The Fukushima experience total meltdown of 3 reactors with explosions sending radiation into the jet stream which far exceeds the release of radiation from Chernobyl. Fukushima has not even been contained yet like was done at Chernobyl where they encased the reactor with cement.


Fukushima Reactor Four Exploded Core End Of Days Time To Run 17/042011 - YouTube
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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Gee, thanks for the you-tube info...especially with the dispassionate scientific "end of days" in it's title. Just screams credibility.

FYI- Some of the first responders at Chernobyl died within DAYS...but one guy lived a year despite 1000REM exposure.

This link follows a discussion amongst some much more knowledgable people than us on the topic.
How painful is it to die from acute radiation poisoning? [Archive] - Physics Forums
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That's all I was looking for was a update on those workers...which I can't seem to find...

I would like to know what condition they're int 'today'...are they still alive? did they die?

Did some recover?
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