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Old 04-11-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Certainly not those middle eastern countries that force their rules on western women.

There is always a strong whiff of hypocrisy in these threads. Its terrible when the French do it but .... shhhhhhh .... lets not talk about the Saudis, the Iranians, the Afghans, etc.
Hahahahaa...ironic that someone would talk about the whiff of hypocrisy, especially from Constition-clinging folks in the US.

The same folks up in arms about religious freedom being threatened in the US are the very people applauding this horrendous law in France.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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So technically this is now illegal in France too:

http://www.occasionsniagara.com/Port...dding-veil.jpg

does it hide the face from identification?
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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imo let people wear what they want, and let the public judge them accordingly.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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Hahahahaa...ironic that someone would talk about the whiff of hypocrisy, especially from Constition-clinging folks in the US.

The same folks up in arms about religious freedom being threatened in the US are the very people applauding this horrendous law in France.
It's about public safety. That trumps EVERYTHING.

BTW, I didn't see your post where you were crying foul about the homos that get murdered in Islamic countries.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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There is no expectation of privacy in the public square.
This is why I'm pushing so hard for a complete clothing ban in public.

Sometimes I don't remember people's faces well so I have to resort to identifying other body parts.

If you support the Niqab ban the only logical conclusion is that you would also support a shirt, pant, underwear ban.

A face isn't that different than a boob or an ass or an elbow.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Reality
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So technically this is now illegal in France too:

http://www.occasionsniagara.com/Port...dding-veil.jpg
No it's not

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The law forbids clothing intended to hide the face in public spaces such as streets, markets, private business, government buildings and public transportation. Violators may be punished with a fine of 150 euros, equivalent to $215. But people forcing others to cover their faces are subject to much stiffer punishments, including a maximum 12 months in prison and a fine of 30,000 euros, equivalent to more than $42,000, or twice that amount if the person forced to cover their face is a minor.
The wedding veil you posted doesn't block the view of the woman's face nor does it conceal her identity. This on the other hand presents a number of safety issues for the public and should rightfully be banned.

http://doesitallmatter2.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/muslim_veil.jpg?w=200&h=200 (broken link)

Let’s Hear It For Spain. « Does It All Matter 2
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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this is why i'm pushing so hard for a complete clothing ban in public.

Sometimes i don't remember people's faces well so i have to resort to identifying other body parts.

If you support the niqab ban the only logical conclusion is that you would also support a shirt, pant, underwear ban.

A face isn't that different than a boob or an ass or an elbow.
:d
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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While I am totally for pissing off Muslims, I think this is a bad idea because I want to know exactly which Muslims do not want to assimilate to normal culture. Easier to keep an eye on them.
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: AL
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Good!
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Not it's not. You can wear veils. They just have to be see-thru.
The law makes no distinction between being able to see the wearer's face or not-just that the face is totally covered.
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