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Old 04-21-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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This topic is already being discussed in what has become the birther megathread.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Well, I can't believe there isn't a post on this one
There is, it's in the Donald Trump Birther (and all other birther crap) thread...

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Old 04-21-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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It is a bunch of conjecture, and is not factual, and well the issue has been settled once and for all, however thats not going to stop racist and straight jacket conspiracy types from making ish up.




FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.

Issue settled, The End.
For some reason you guys think it is hard to get a fake BC. Fake meaning FICTICIOUS! I know someone who got one with one letter changed in his last name. He got a whole new identity with it. Illegals get fake ID's ALL day long, why wouldn't someone who is willing to spen MILLIONS not be able to get one?
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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For some reason you guys think it is hard to get a fake BC. Fake meaning FICTICIOUS! I know someone who got one with one letter changed in his last name. He got a whole new identity with it. Illegals get fake ID's ALL day long, why wouldn't someone who is willing to spen MILLIONS not be able to get one?
I think it's a lot harder to get GOP officials in the state that issued the birth certificate to vouch for its authenticity on many occasions when they know that declaring it a forgery could bring down Obama's entire presidency. That takes more than just bribing somebody to get a fake ID produced.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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For some reason you guys think it is hard to get a fake BC. Fake meaning FICTICIOUS! I know someone who got one with one letter changed in his last name. He got a whole new identity with it. Illegals get fake ID's ALL day long, why wouldn't someone who is willing to spen MILLIONS not be able to get one?
I agree, GWB got a fake one and he was born on Mars....
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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I eagerly await it's release. I hope it's verifiably factual and not a bunch of conjecture. This issue needs to be settled once and for all.
It's Jerome Corsi. The guy cites himself and consider his arguments supported.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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For some reason you guys think it is hard to get a fake BC. Fake meaning FICTICIOUS! I know someone who got one with one letter changed in his last name. He got a whole new identity with it. Illegals get fake ID's ALL day long, why wouldn't someone who is willing to spen MILLIONS not be able to get one?
Apart from the fact that you're confessing to be an accomplice to a felony, you're kinda missing out on a problem with fake papers: They tend to not match the records. That's how you uncover document fraud - look at the suspect paper, check against central records.

Funny thing is, the relevant authorites have gone on record stating that the BC released by the Obama campaign matches the records. Now, you can postulate that enough officials have been bribed to have all sorts of records altered in the Hawaiian department of vital statistics. At which point in time you'll be just another conspiracy theorist - because expanding the conspiracy is the only defense mechanism available.
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:02 PM
 
Location: NE CT
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The bigger problem for PBO is his refusal to release his school loan and grant applications. What is he hiding there?

Did he apply for these grants and loans as a foreign student to attend Columbia and Harvard? If he did, then he is either guilty of fraud, or he is a foreigner. Which is it? Did he apply as a US student, then release the records since the government underwrote the loans and issued the grants with my tax money, so I have a right to see them. If they were private loans issued by private banks, I have no right to see them, but if they were government grants and government backed loans, I do have a right to see them since it was my tax dollars that provided the opportunitities for him to attend these Ivy League schools.

Ca'mon there man, release your student loan applications or do we need to file a FOI app?
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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For some reason you guys think it is hard to get a fake BC. Fake meaning FICTICIOUS! I know someone who got one with one letter changed in his last name. He got a whole new identity with it. Illegals get fake ID's ALL day long, why wouldn't someone who is willing to spen MILLIONS not be able to get one?
And GOP officials in the state certifying the birth certificate... This conspiracy stuff is absolutely insane.....
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The bigger problem for PBO is his refusal to release his school loan and grant applications. What is he hiding there?

Did he apply for these grants and loans as a foreign student to attend Columbia and Harvard? If he did, then he is either guilty of fraud, or he is a foreigner. Which is it? Did he apply as a US student, then release the records since the government underwrote the loans and issued the grants with my tax money, so I have a right to see them. If they were private loans issued by private banks, I have no right to see them, but if they were government grants and government backed loans, I do have a right to see them since it was my tax dollars that provided the opportunitities for him to attend these Ivy League schools.

Ca'mon there man, release your student loan applications or do we need to file a FOI app?
The FOIA does not include school records. You are claiming you have a right to see something you have no legal right to see and are simply making things up. Little thing called FERPA, you know something called a law, and we all know birthers have such trouble understanding the law.
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