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Old 05-05-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.

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Old 05-05-2011, 09:09 PM
 
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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.

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Don't know about city data, but some Republicans I know don't really believe it, but they call him that just to engage in character assassination. Other Republicans I've met, usually the ignorant and uneducated Glenn Beck fans, really do believe he is a socialist.

Sad.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:13 PM
 
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Neo-conservative? Are you just trying to provoke the lefties around here?
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.

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I don't know how people can say this stuff. He just pushed for and got through Congress a huge health care bill.

In today's world, more socialism is pretty much the default option...Even not adding any new pograms results in more government spending as a share of GDP.

Examples:

People are living longer, which means most will collect way more Social Security than they every put in (even when you include interest).

Medical costs keep going up...so even if health care programs weren't expended, it still eats up more and more of our tax dollars, etc.

Heck....George W. Bush was basically a socialist who increased government spending not just on wars, but across the board (think Medicare drug plan, amongst other things). And Obama is even more of a spendaholic than Bush was.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:15 PM
 
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you are right, to call obama a socialist is to insult the socialists of the world. obama is in fact a marxist.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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you are right, to call obama a socialist is to insult the socialists of the world. obama is in fact a marxist.
Yawn
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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you are right, to call obama a socialist is to insult the socialists of the world. obama is in fact a marxist.
What's the difference between Socialism and Marxism ?
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:20 PM
 
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Look it up!
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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He most certainly is:

Confiscating a seventh of the US economy through Obama-care already raising the heck out of the cost of everyone's health care.
Fines for not bowing to Obama on this of five thousand a violation for not affording this. In the same bill they confiscate another 3.75% of the value of any house you sell after this year.

Confiscation of GM into the government away from Stock holders stripping of them of their asset without any fair compensation, then he turned it over to the UNION for free though the UNION employees were already compensated through their wages.

Increasing the national debt for mostly no reason by almost 50% and turning most of it over to the government employee unions that financed a half a billion in his 2008 campaign.

Trying to pass laws to make people vote regarding unions in view of others thereby causing retribution by union thugs.

There are a few for starters.
The most liberal progressive socialist in American government ever and a President worse than Carter if that could be possible.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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you are right, to call obama a socialist is to insult the socialists of the world. obama is in fact a marxist.
A Marxist, c'mon. Obama is the same thing as Bush, a Fascist. Oh, btw, my ideology is Left, I'm just not a liberal, progressive, democrat, socialist or a communist. Furthermore, I hold NO allegiance to any specific political party.
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