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Slappy face isnt helping you.. I dont need to tell you.. I TOLD YOU.. It was a cost cutting measure, then I posted links to validate the position.. You are saying I'm wrong.. its up to YOU to validate your response.. There is no obligation for me to prove your argument for you.
I know you told me that they are hired for cost savings. But you have refused to demonstrate that they save costs compared to not.
The Mental Health Center private, non-profit agency; the Public Health Department is publicly funded. The nursing service is entirely on-site. They are certainly not outsourcing to Wexford (your link).
The fact that they are non profit agencies dont mean the services arent contracted out to them. By definition, it would have to be contracted out to an agency before the non profits could get involved.
The fact that they are publicly funded, also doesnt mean they arent contracted out (when clearly they are since they are sometimes contracted out to non profits, i.e. above).
And the fact that they have nursing services on site, again, doesnt mean they arent contracted out. Even Wexford (or the dozen or so other companies) as part of the RFP is required to provide staffing for things like nurses, and doctors.. Thats what the RFP's are for
I know you told me that they are hired for cost savings. But you have refused to demonstrate that they save costs compared to not.
I showed you numerous examples that say they were cost savings measure, you've showed me ZERO that says its not. Maybe you are having difficulty following along with the discussion..
I showed you numerous examples that say they were cost savings measure, you've showed me ZERO that says its not. Maybe you are having difficulty following along with the discussion..
Show me the numbers. THAT matters, not statements and claims.
You two are trying too hard to prove something isnt taking place, when clearly it is.. I've posted NUMEROUS links showing you that private industries are being contracted to provide healthcare for governmental agencies.
The fact that they are non profit agencies dont mean the services arent contracted out to them..
The fact that they are publicly funded, also doesnt mean they arent contracted out because so are the other companies which they are contracted out.
And the fact that they have nursing services on site, again, doesnt mean they arent contracted out. Even Wexford (or the dozen or so other companies) as part of the RFP is required to provide staffing for things like nurses, and doctors.. Thats what the RFP's are for
The services are contracted out to other departments of the Boulder County government, or in the case of Mental Health, to a private non-profit. The nursing service is in-house. You've wasted enough of my time, proving to me what I already knew.
Q: Why do states outsource prison health care? A: They find they can achieve cost savings by hiring an experienced company to manage their medical program. For example, the State of Indiana has been a client since 1997. It calculates that, in the first seven years, it avoided additional costs of more than $62.5 million by contracting with us.
Since you are CLEARLY having trouble following along.. If you are saying this is wrong, its up to YOU to show its wrong..
You two are trying too hard to prove something isnt taking place, when clearly it is.. I've posted NUMEROUS links showing you that private industries are being contracted to provide healthcare for governmental agencies.
So, the government does the right thing for a change? And we don't need any proof beyond the lip service? Based on your running around, I must now assume you have NOTHING to substantiate your claim. You will keep parroting things over and over again and I do not have the time for that non-sense. Provide data demonstrating savings, or don't expect any more response from me. And if this is your best "evidence"
"For example, the State of Indiana has been a client since 1997. It calculates that, in the first seven years, it avoided additional costs of more than $62.5 million by contracting with us."
The services are contracted out to other departments of the Boulder County government, or in the case of Mental Health, to a private non-profit. The nursing service is in-house. You've wasted enough of my time, proving to me what I already knew.
I think its funny that you keep telling me its not contracted out, but then posting that they are..
So, the government does the right thing for a change? And we don't need any proof beyond the lip service? Based on your running around, I must now assume you have NOTHING to substantiate your claim. You will keep parroting things over and over again and I do not have the time for that non-sense. Provide data demonstrating savings, or don't expect any more response from me.
Why do I bother discussing anything with someone living in denial and cant respond back with anything other than..
"I'm right, your wrong, and I'm not posting anything to support my position"..
FAIL..
Again, I posted NUMEROUS links listing cost savings... You provided NOTHING as usual..
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