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what ever in the world are you going on about? rejected, starving??? medicare? makes no sense whatsoever. None.
an addition 20K in taxes? try not getting your info from chain-emails....
and talking about "fair tax" is it fair that Exxon, Chevron, GE, and so many others pay NO TAX to the US Gov't?
I wouldn't even define them as american companies anymore.
Where do you get your informatio that those companies pay no tax?just yesterday the numbers they pay were released in the senate by Laundro a demcrat.The fact is it was you democratic control, senate and house that formul;aed the heathcare bill and even then its not really paid for.This bill has no chance of passing. If medicare is so well run anf funded then you perhaps need to look at the CBO reports and its own wrnings to the last two presdient o going broke as require by law. Then you need to look at democrats proposal to save it which is higher medicare taxes on workers. You seem to live in a dream world where money grows o trees. This has zero chance of passage. Its meedicaid that ios a single payer system ;nopt medicare.Want to bet it never gets to the floor ?
Most Progressives, myself included, felt the Obama plan didn't go far enough. The intention was good, and there are some genuinely important pieces in it, but once the Public Option came off the table (in another cave to the GOP) it essentially became a handout to the Insurance Companies.
Mandates without a public option are merely handouts to the same insurance companies that have been denying coverage and very often flat-out-screwing people once they become sick.
l don't think this legislation has a prayer of passing but I applaud my Senator Bernie Sanders and Rep. Jim McDermott for at least trying.
It must be great to be a progressive nowadays, with so many politicians thinking we can keep providing everything in life to everyone for free. Why I guess the only thing to figure out is how to pay for things so we can keep giving you guys more and more..
ooh wait, nope, no need to pay for it either.. We'll just bankrupt our children so we can have things now..
How selfish!!
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I agree....and Sanders is awesome, he actually fights for average middle class Americans!. Heard him speak many times and it's always the voice of reason and practicality.
When did giving you welfare, become a figbt for middle class americans?
Well, if you want to split hairs like that, you're right. But the 80% part is single-payer, and they do it with a much lower overhead than the private insurances.
Actually you are wrong.. private insurances do things MUCH cheaper than governments and their "single payer" systems. Thats why government NOW contracts out healthcare costs for things like medicaid, prisoner healthcare, even medicare..
Actually you are wrong.. private insurances do things MUCH cheaper than governments and their "single payer" systems. Thats why government NOW contracts out healthcare costs for things like medicaid, prisoner healthcare, even medicare..
I'm pretty sure EVERY state contracts out healthcare to private industries now..
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Actually you are wrong.. private insurances do things MUCH cheaper than governments and their "single payer" systems. Thats why government NOW contracts out healthcare costs for things like medicaid, prisoner healthcare, even medicare..
Read the thread before responding. I already did post examples. There isnt one state (that I know of) in the country that doesnt contract out healthcare for things like medicaid..
Its why big insurance companies got behidn the current plan, they all knew that this would mean more business for THEM, not government competition, because government would pass these contracts onto private industry.
Another example of liberals who supported something, and didnt even know what they were supporting..
Read the thread before responding. I already did post examples. There isnt one state (that I know of) in the country that doesnt contract out healthcare for things like medicaid..
Its why big insurance companies got behidn the current plan, they all knew that this would mean more business for THEM, not government competition, because government would pass these contracts onto private industry.
Another example of liberals who supported something, and didnt even know what they were supporting..
Which specific thread have you provided the numbers to prove your point? I have not seen any. The one point on the subject I see is that you've listed one of the MCOs, a practice the state has engaged in since the 1990s? I'm asking for evidence that demonstrates lower costs through private enterprise. I would say that a major problem with Medicare costs (besides the high risk clientele) is the public-private venture... capitalize profits, socialize losses.
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