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Maybe I'm just old school... whatever happened to working your way through college?
I did and the rest of my family did also... no loans or help from parents... there were no tax deferred education plans like today and student loans were certainly less of the equation.
It may take a little longer... but this too can be a good thing.
I hate to say it... I know way too many young adults that have dropped out of college and money was the least of their concerns... parents, grandparents and even a few had scholarships and still dropped out.
Maybe, like with most things... you really don't have the same appreciation when something is given to you as opposed to earning it yourself.
Exactly. These students go to college so they can make more money than those who don't. So let them pay their own way, it's their future incomes - let them work for it.
Ignorance to facts (tuition rising faster than wages, thus making it less likely to graduate on work alone...unless you focus more on work than school) is bliss.
The people, through our Government have been spending money we do not have for too long...
It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is not sustainable.
Today I just bought a new battery for my car... 10 years ago, the exact same battery from the same store cost me $41 and today it was $135... more than 300% increase in just 10 years...
I need some 1/2 inch copper water pipe... can't even get a price in advance because it is now sold at market price adjusted daily at the wholesale house... same with copper wire...
Fact is people still go to school and many schools are overwhelmed with applications... so, somehow, even in this time of financial crisis... there is not shortage of students.
Maybe those I know are atypical.
A young man got a full sports scholarship for swimming and another young lady for tennis... know several that row crew and also have significant athletic scholarships.
Then there are those with academic scholarships... one is getting a full ride at UCLA for her Doctorate and another is getting her Masters in Chemistry at the University of Iowa... some areas, like Chemistry have more women scholarships then qualified applicants.
In addition, there is the very generous GI Bill... a path for many over the years...
I have only scratched the surface... the Portuguese Society offers two full scholarships that I'm aware and Native Americans have many tribal resources.
Those going into medicine can agree to have much of their student loans forgiven by working in under-served communities.
I work in medical and we have several Nurses that received tuition through Kaiser Hospital in exchange for working there... another example of working your way through college.
Each generation believes none that came before had any obstacles to overcome... it is part of the growing-up process.
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So they will be working at Wal-Mart and Home Depot for the rest of their lives?
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Originally Posted by malamute
Exactly. These students go to college so they can make more money than those who don't. So let them pay their own way, it's their future incomes - let them work for it.
The people, through our Government have been spending money we do not have for too long...
It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is not sustainable.
Today I just bought a new battery for my car... 10 years ago, the exact same battery from the same store cost me $41 and today it was $135... more than 300% increase in just 10 years...
I need some 1/2 inch copper water pipe... can't even get a price in advance because it is now sold at market price adjusted daily at the wholesale house... same with copper wire...
Fact is people still go to school and many schools are overwhelmed with applications... so, somehow, even in this time of financial crisis... there is not shortage of students.
Maybe those I know are atypical.
A young man got a full sports scholarship for swimming and another young lady for tennis... know several that row crew and also have significant athletic scholarships.
Then there are those with academic scholarships... one is getting a full ride at UCLA for her Doctorate and another is getting her Masters in Chemistry at the University of Iowa... some areas, like Chemistry have more women scholarships then qualified applicants.
In addition, there is the very generous GI Bill... a path for many over the years...
I have only scratched the surface... the Portuguese Society offers two full scholarships that I'm aware and Native Americans have many tribal resources.
Those going into medicine can agree to have much of their student loans forgiven by working in under-served communities.
I work in medical and we have several Nurses that received tuition through Kaiser Hospital in exchange for working there... another example of working your way through college.
Each generation believes none that came before had any obstacles to overcome... it is part of the growing-up process.
Scholarships are limited, thus not EVERYONE will get the money required. Also, full rides are rare indeed.
Scholarships may address individual solutions, but not a systematic one.
Maybe I'm just old school... whatever happened to working your way through college?
I did and the rest of my family did also... no loans or help from parents... there were no tax deferred education plans like today and student loans were certainly less of the equation.
It may take a little longer... but this too can be a good thing.
I hate to say it... I know way too many young adults that have dropped out of college and money was the least of their concerns... parents, grandparents and even a few had scholarships and still dropped out.
Maybe, like with most things... you really don't have the same appreciation when something is given to you as opposed to earning it yourself.
If we had jobs, even part time, and made it through school I am hopeful today's youth can too.
What do you expect? People cut subsidies to college education, some one's got to pay for it. Payment comes from one of two places, people can't cut one place and complain about the payment going up in the other. I swear I wonder if people can't see simple cause and effect anymore.
Doesn't hurt me, this in fact helps me. When smart people can't go to college (and grad school) because of cost, the supply of labor in my job class goes down...increasing my wages. My wages allow me to sock away even more money for my kids tuition in order to make sure they are well educated, because the supply of labor with these degrees are going down.
Scholarships are limited, thus not EVERYONE will get the money required. Also, full rides are rare indeed.
Scholarships may address individual solutions, but not a systematic one.
The same can be said for higher education... not everyone meets the admission requirements...
I wonder how beneficial it is for many to go back to school if it means incurring lots of debt?
Husband of a friend was laid-off when the Toyota plant closed... he has not been in school for 30 years and is now attending... he has to if he wants to avail himself of the maximum severance package offered.
There are nearly 5000 of his co-workers in the same position...
My father taught High School and firmly believed a High School Diploma was essential... believing this, he had students that did quite well for themselves without the benefit of a 4 year or more college degree.
They became police officers, nurses, plumbers, electricians and one even became the mayor of a local town and another is a very successful restaurateur.
Higher Education is just one path of many.
The man I bought my first home from was a UC Berkeley graduate and spent his career as a letter carrier and tutored high school students nights and weekends for 50 years.
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