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Old 05-16-2011, 12:36 PM
 
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Well they are not actually saying overthrow the government.
More like "do what it takes" to get your people recognized and on top.
They also have in their book to eliminate the gringo.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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Well they are not actually saying overthrow the government.
More like "do what it takes" to get your people recognized and on top.
Since none of us has actually read the books in question, I think you should check out the link I provided above and read what the Superintendent of Instruction (who SHOULD know what's in the books) said about them.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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Why has everyone went off the subject?

Its not about Beck.

Its about ethnic studies to overthrow government
I think that is all those who like what is going on in the TUSD ethnic studies curriculum but are aware that there is no way to defend this to anyone who is not a supporter of Marxism have to argue; i.e., the source. They try to convince people that it is not true because it comes from Beck.

More from the letter written by the former Superintendent of Public Instruction:

"One of the textbooks is Occupied America (5th ed.). One of the leaders it talks about is... “José Angel Gutiérrez "One of Gutiérrez’s speeches is described as follows:"
"We are fed up. We are going to move to do away with the injustices to the Chicano and if the ‘gringo’ doesn’t get out of our way, we will stampede over him.” Gutiérrez attacked the gringo establishment angrily at a press conference and called upon Chicanos to ‘kill the gringo,’ which meant to end white control over Mexicans."
"The textbook’s translation of what Gutiérrez meant contradicts his clear language. In describing the atmosphere in Texas where Gutiérrez spoke, the textbook states: “Texans had never come to grips with the fact that Mexicans had won at the Alamo.” (P. 323.) It is certainly strange to find a textbook in an American public school taking the Mexican side of the battle at the Alamo."
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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I think that is all those who like what is going on in the TUSD ethnic studies curriculum but are aware that there is no way to defend this to anyone who is not a supporter of Marxism have to argue; i.e., the source. They try to convince people that it is not true because it comes from Beck.

More from the letter written by the former Superintendent of Public Instruction:

"One of the textbooks is Occupied America (5th ed.). One of the leaders it talks about is... “José Angel Gutiérrez "One of Gutiérrez’s speeches is described as follows:"
"We are fed up. We are going to move to do away with the injustices to the Chicano and if the ‘gringo’ doesn’t get out of our way, we will stampede over him.” Gutiérrez attacked the gringo establishment angrily at a press conference and called upon Chicanos to ‘kill the gringo,’ which meant to end white control over Mexicans."
"The textbook’s translation of what Gutiérrez meant contradicts his clear language. In describing the atmosphere in Texas where Gutiérrez spoke, the textbook states: “Texans had never come to grips with the fact that Mexicans had won at the Alamo.” (P. 323.) It is certainly strange to find a textbook in an American public school taking the Mexican side of the battle at the Alamo."

I am glad Arizona banned those studies. They need to do it in every state.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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I am glad Arizona banned those studies. They need to do it in every state.
Where do you get your information that these studies have been banned?

I thought it was still being debated and at most they have made these studies electives vs. required courses.

Here is a link to an article that discusses a very chaotic attempt at a board meeting on May 4, 2011 in which this issue tried to be brought up. But the massive crowd and protestors (taught well in the ethnic studies class, I guess) prevented any real resolution.

Last Night's TUSD Ethnic Studies Resolution Meeting Gets an F | The Range: The Tucson Weekly's Daily Dispatch

"This was Stegeman's second attempt to present his resolution, which makes changes to ethnic studies and the Mexican-American studies department, most specifically changing the status of Chicano history and government classes from core-credit classes that count toward history requirements to electives."

"Stegeman's resolution was first scheduled for discussion and vote last week, but was rescheduled after student-led UNIDOS coalition members took over the meeting in protest."
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