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Old 06-08-2011, 11:04 PM
 
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The limitations are a joke, there are no real limitations. These abortion mills are not closely scrutinized.

The reality is viability doesn't matter to the pro abortion crowed. They really want abortion on demand for any reason.

the limitations are not a joke. you try to make an appointment for an abortion in the 7th month of pregnancy for no real medical reason and see how far you get.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:10 PM
 
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I don't want to force anything on anyone, but I don't think murder should be legal if thats what your getting at.
Do you advocate for the murder of children when they are out of the womb as well?
Abortion by law cannot be deemed murder. You guys really need to learn legal terminology.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:11 PM
 
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As for the topic, 8 states are trying to pass laws to make all abortions and the pill illegal. In fact, mississippi is going on tour with the "Conceived in Rape" message, making it a requirement for women who were raped to carry their rapists baby to term.

I think Mississippi wins the award for most disgusting state in the nation.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Does the Government have ANY business involving itself in the abortion issue?
No, it is a medical issue and should be left up to the woman and her doctor, simple as that.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Gone
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On a state level.
STILL Government, nope BAD idea.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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It's a twisted bit of hypocrisy to see those who are vehemently opposed to war, advocating for baby killin
No one is advocating for killing babies so you are in error.

It's a twisted bit of hypocrisy to see those who are vehemently opposed to a woman's right to choose abortion and how they do NOT care AFTER the child is born...how they support wars that kill those grown up babies...how they hate anyone who needs welfare to feed those babies...how they hate any government assistance to help those babies...how they hate those babies...
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Remember the legality of contraception and abortion is NOT about the fetus, viable or not, but about male control of women. The very idea of forcing rape victims to carry the baby is a perfect illustration of this concept. Even if a man has to use force to obtain sex his baby is more important than his victim's desire to rid herself of his abomination. The weak men that would outlaw contraception are afraid that their female property will not bear their children if contraception is available. Besides even the weakest of men can use force get a woman pregnant to prove he is a man. Without the threat of rape or the rights of ownership some men would never get laid.

On one level abortion is a medical issue and every individual has control over their own body. Without that control a woman is not a free individual. She is property.

On the other level it is a discussion of weather women can ever be a free person. Some religions and several political and social conceptions believe, and wish the law to enforce, the idea that all females have to be the property and under the control of a male. That male may be her father, her husband or her priest/preacher. All of these men are primarily concerned that the females only have sex with other men with their owner’s approval. These men also want the women be burdened with the medical risks and pain of pregnancy and the responsibility of rearing the child if the male does not care to take responsibility.

I find the very concept of owning people to be repulsive be they men, women or children. People are not a commodity to be bought, sold or owned. I, as a male, have control of my body. I expect all women to have control of theirs. Using the Law to eliminate contraception or abortion is an insult to all of us everywhere.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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People who know how to mind their own damn business and have no need ot force their morality on other people.
Yes, but Repugs WANT more government control, bigger government. They want the government controlling every aspect of OTHER people's lives....

Then they sit back and think, "I am so good, I've never taken a dime from the government , it doesn't spend a cent on me(belch, drool)"

How stupid !
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Abortion by law cannot be deemed murder. You guys really need to learn legal terminology.
It all depends on the law. Apparently shooting innocent people with Apache helicopters apparently isn't murder so long as they're in another country. Just because legislation exists doesn't make it right.

Regarding abortion, if you believe that a baby in a womb is a person, then it's hard to make the argument that killing them isn't a violation of their rights. However, if you dehumanize them it seems perfectly fine.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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It's a twisted bit of hypocrisy to see those who are vehemently opposed to war, advocating for baby killin
Isn't it odd that the type of people who defend abortion are usually also anti-death penalty? What kind of logic deems killing unborn babies as fine, but killing murderers is barbaric and wrong?

It's also interesting that those who are typically pro-choice for abortion are trying to limit choice throughout the rest of society. Fast food bans, high cigarette taxes and smoking bans, dodgeball bans, soda machine bans, chocolate milk bans, contact sports bans, lightbulb bans, even American flag and t-shirt bans, etc.

Pro-choice on abortion and anti-choice on everything they don't think you're responsible enough to decide on your own.
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