Why do the males get no say? (radical, death, state)

[TheDirector]

Originally Posted by city_data91

Oh, and if the male doesn't want to pay child support, he should say to the female:

Not

your

money

My money, my choice

It is your money your choice.

You can choose to be financially ruined and go to jail.

or

Pay child support


pretty simple

[VTHokieFan]

I will never take the pro-choice movement seriously because they are generally anti-choice about everything else.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Men have a say in having sex, using protection, and deciding to be with a woman who wants to get pregnant or not.

are these options different for a woman?

[Ceist]

Originally Posted by city_data91

And I'm not trying to control what she does with her body. I said I'm pro-choice.

But if she wants to raise a baby so badly and the male doesn't, she should pay for it by herself.

Birth control can fail.

And you're missing the point. The point is what I said on my OP. A female can get out of paying for a baby she doesn't want, so a male should be able to.

Why can females force a male to pay but males can't force a female to pay?

Note: I'm not saying males should force females to pay. I'm just saying females shouldn't force males to pay. No one should force anyone to pay.

Have a vasectomy. You can get it reversed if and when you are responsible enough to parent a child, and have found a woman who wants to have a child with you. Problem solved.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by Ferd

are these options different for a woman?

Yes. How would a woman get another woman pregnant?

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by LauraC

It's called "A woman's right to choose murder."

There are all sorts of socially approved forms of homicide, abortion as it stands right now is just one of them.

[city_data91]

Obviously you people are missing the point, so why don't I explain:

I am not trying to control what a female does.

The thought of parenthood devastates me so I'm thinking from this point of view:

If a female wants to get an abortion, she should. I support abortion. I can see why someone wouldn't want a baby.

But if the male doesn't want to pay, why should he?

Why can a female have all the sex she wants and get off scot free, but the male takes a risk every time he has sex?

If a female wants a baby, she can go ahead and have the baby. But the male shouldn't need to pay. The female can make the choice of whether or not she wants to pay, so the male should be able to make the same choice.

[Ceist]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Yes. How would a woman get another woman pregnant?

Could be fun trying....

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Yes. How would a woman get another woman pregnant?

quit being obtuse and answer the autual question.

up to the point of impregnation are the options different for men and women.

(of course we are talking about consensual sex and excluding all forms of rape in this discussion)

[nightflight]

Originally Posted by psulions2007

The males get a say. It's called deciding whether or not they use a condom. Beyond that, it's the female's decision since it is her body.

An person against abortion could say the same to women; they had a choice to use birth control (or not have sex).