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Yeah you can't prove, just as I thought. Porn stars with lots of experience telling about the industry and the people in it > some guy on the internet. I've seen more than enough to make me think more of them are druggies/came from broken homes than not. Then you say that isn't true but can't back it up.
Who cares if they are or not? Aren't they all legal adults, who are free to do as they wish with their bodies? Maybe industry-provided therapy would be a nice idea, but aside from that, I'm not sure how this is our issue to discuss... their bodies, their decision.
P.S. That article linked earlier included pot as a drug, and I'd hardly call pot smokers "destructive druggies" - so that alone makes me question the validity of the article.
Who cares if they are or not? Aren't they all legal adults, who are free to do as they wish with their bodies? Maybe industry-provided therapy would be a nice idea, but aside from that, I'm not sure how this is our issue to discuss... their bodies, their decision.
P.S. That article linked earlier included pot as a drug, and I'd hardly call pot smokers "destructive druggies" - so that alone makes me question the validity of the article.
Who said that I cared? As far as pot being a drug she said she thinks 90% did drugs including weed and 70% have a problem with drugs not only weed, duh. What she considers a problem is when it effects your work life.
Who said that I cared? As far as pot being a drug she said she thinks 90% did drugs including weed and 70% have a problem with drugs not only weed, duh. What she considers a problem is when it effects your work life.
If you don't care, why even bother researching & presenting the "evidence?" I'll say it again - this is not MY nor YOUR problem, and it has nothing to do with the existence of pornography. Regardless of their personal histories, drug use, and/or motivations, the bottom line is that it's still their right to participate... and speculating over this stuff is really rather pointless.
Did you know nurses have an extremely high rate of drug abuse too? I'd have to look up the numbers, but it's a major problem in the nursing & medical field. So is that a good reason to eliminate the nursing profession? Perhaps it's a better idea to address WHY these abusive (sexual & drug) situations exist, instead of focusing on their line of work after the fact. Or maybe they could offer substance abuse treatment, and the newly-sober porn stars could then decide whether or not to continue in the industry.
Disclaimer: I am certainly no expert, having watched maybe 1-2 adult videos in my entire life... I am a Howard Stern fan, but that's about where my porno knowledge begins & ends.
Did you know nurses have an extremely high rate of drug abuse too? I'd have to look up the numbers, but it's a major problem in the nursing & medical field. So is that a good reason to eliminate the nursing profession? Perhaps it's a better idea to address WHY these abusive (sexual & drug) situations exist, instead of focusing on their line of work after the fact.
Absolutely. I'm not sure that some of these anti-porn people even recognize how irrational they sound. I think their opinions are driven by a discomfort with sex on video, and they'll use any excuse to say that the entire industry should be shut down.
If you don't care, why even bother researching & presenting the "evidence?" I'll say it again - this is not MY nor YOUR problem, and it has nothing to do with the existence of pornography. Regardless of their personal histories, drug use, and/or motivations, the bottom line is that it's still their right to participate... and speculating over this stuff is really rather pointless.
Did you know nurses have an extremely high rate of drug abuse too? I'd have to look up the numbers, but it's a major problem in the nursing & medical field. So is that a good reason to eliminate the nursing profession? Perhaps it's a better idea to address WHY these abusive (sexual & drug) situations exist, instead of focusing on their line of work after the fact. Or maybe they could offer substance abuse treatment, and the newly-sober porn stars could then decide whether or not to continue in the industry.
Disclaimer: I am certainly no expert, having watched maybe 1-2 adult videos in my entire life... I am a Howard Stern fan, but that's about where my porno knowledge begins & ends.
Because a poster made a post acting like there is nothing wrong with porn stars and they don't have issues etc and I disagree, because I disagree with someone means I care about what porn stars do with their lives?
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
Absolutely. I'm not sure that some of these anti-porn people even recognize how irrational they sound. I think their opinions are driven by a discomfort with sex on video, and they'll use any excuse to say that the entire industry should be shut down.
First of all I'm not anti porn, second you're the one who sounds irrational. You are making claims that you can't back up all you have to say is "hey I have experience in this and you don't so I'm right, all those porn stars with tons of experience are lieing they are just conspiring against the porn industry". Thats all you have to say so I would say the hundreds or thousands of porn stars telling about the porn industry over the years are more credible than you.
Heres another one they aren't exactly uncommon and they all pretty much say the same thing... see a trend there?
Here’s a partial transcript of Shelley’s talk with Jersey.
Shelley: “I hear you left porn. What’s going on?â€
Jersey: “I’m just tired of the industry. The way that they treat as though we are just a piece of meat. That we don’t have a mind and our body is everybody’s and we have no soul.â€
Shelley: “Did something happen that made you say, ‘That’s it! I’m done.’â€
Jersey: “Someone I thought was my friend chose money over me and tried to get my fiance to leave me by offering him double pay. I’ve completely had it. I can’t deal with it anymore… I want everything in my relationship to be only me and him.â€
Shelley: “You told me some pretty scary things about the porn industry.â€
Jersey: “Guys punching you in the face. You have semen… Twenty or thirty guys all over your face, in your eyes. You get ripped. Your insides can come out of you. It’s never ending. Your viewed as an object not as a human with a spirit. People don’t care. People do drugs because they can’t deal with the way they’re being treated.â€
Shelley: “What percentage of porn people use drugs?â€
Jersey: “Seventy five percent and rising. Have to numb themselves… There are specific doctors in this industry if you go in for a common cold, they’ll give you vicodin, viagra, anything you want because all they care about is money. You are a number. You’re bruised. You have black eyes. You’re ripped. You’re torn. You have your insides coming out of you. It’s not pretty and foofoo on set. You get hurt.â€
“The main thing going around now is crystal meth, cocaine and heroin. …You have to numb yourself to go on set. The more you work, the more you have to numb yourself. The more you become addicted, the more your personal life is nothing but drugs… Your whole life becomes nothing but porn.â€
“I was a drinker. I drank a lot. Vodka was my drug. Vodka was my numbing toy. Before sets, after sets, and if it was a set where people didn’t care, they’d have it there waiting.â€
The irony in this thread is that the same people who want to ban porn also probably gripe about California being anti-business (and I won't deny it has far too many laws and regulations that make it a very difficult state for small business to survive in) and claim to be opposed to government interference in the free market....
Never mind the damage it causes to people who watch this stuff via divorces, or diseases from mimicing their actions, or rapes by sexually charged perverts - never mind that stuff, just wear a condom and safety googles while you wreak havoc with the souls and spirits of men.
LOL at "pornography causing rape and violence", a theory which unites radical feminists with the Religious Right. Rape and violence have existed in societies with virtually no porn. As if the Taliban, the Janjaweed, etc. are big consumers of porn. Or, as if the Khmer Rouge were big consumers of porn. Etc. etc. etc.
Most porn stars are on drugs and are ashamed of them selves for the lifestyle they have, and had rough childhoods so they use drugs to numb the pain.
Oh my gosh, hate to say your right, but a friend of my Son around 8-10 years ago, was dating a Porn starlet. She may have been someone new in the business at that time.
The things i remember most, was from my Son, who said yeah the girl was very pretty, but had major problems, major. She over reacted to people and how they looked at her. Had trouble communicating, drank all the time, infact my son said drink drink drink the troubles away. The way she explained it, drinking took her away from all the dark places she was in. Kind of sad in a way. My son felt sorry for her.
Well got to the point, drinking did not cut it anymore, now she started to do drugs on the set. She told my son's friend, i cannot deny or say this is true, just what i recall. But that the set always had drugs handy, all kinds of drugs. The guys had to watch doing drugs so that it would not interupt their performance, nothing could get in the way of a guy performing.
Well my son's friend could not hack it anymore, and broke up with the gal, he did not like the lifestyle, the lies, the drugs, and the booze. The men, the calls, any of it associated with porn. So hate to say it, but your are right, not everyone she says does drugs in the porn industry, about 70-80% on a regualr basis. I met the girl only once, could not even tell you today, who she was, i honestly do not know. She was a pretty girl, but very much into herself, and her own torment, something clearly was bothering this young gal. She did say that so many in the porn industry men or women, were abused, as children, or came from a broken home.
I can't sincerely say this is all factual, only can go on what it is that i remember it was quite a while ago.
I wouldn't argue that pornography causes an increase in the rate of rape or other sex crimes, but you have to admit that there has been a "pornification" of our society. Just listen to the lyrics of current pop songs (which nowadays sometimes have "f\/ck" right in the title) or talk to women who have had their partners want to perform degrading sex acts with them. In my humble opinion, that isn't a good thing at all.
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