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View Poll Results: Have you ever had an abortion?
Yes 52 18.98%
No 89 32.48%
N/A- I'm a man & will never be pregnant. 133 48.54%
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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Excuse me but this sick person as you call is my ex gf and still a good friend in mind. Before you type, you should think of what you are going to say. It was a child yet, it was still a fetus that was growing. Like I said in my previous posts, there was no way in hell that both of us were going to go through 9 months of pregnancy with low paying jobs. Both of us weren't ready to have a kid. That was the best option that we did. My parents were 100 percent for the abortion ( yes, we are all catholics ). Her parents were the ones who didn't like the idea. The girl wanted it though. She didn't want her life ruined at 19. Too young to have a child imo.
Your post proves my point. It was all about convenience with no thought to the innocent life. Catholic Charities would have adopted that baby to a loving home so that your "ex" girlfriend didn't ruin "her life". It was ok to kill that baby out of selfishness though in your mind and that of your "ex" as long as you were not inconvenienced.

Pathetic!
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Excuse me but this sick person as you call is my ex gf and still a good friend in mind. Before you type, you should think of what you are going to say. It was a child yet, it was still a fetus that was growing. Like I said in my previous posts, there was no way in hell that both of us were going to go through 9 months of pregnancy with low paying jobs. Both of us weren't ready to have a kid. That was the best option that we did. My parents were 100 percent for the abortion ( yes, we are all catholics ). Her parents were the ones who didn't like the idea. The girl wanted it though. She didn't want her life ruined at 19. Too young to have a child imo.





I don't care what people think about my ex and I. It was our choice to do it. I will always be by her side no matter what happens.



Great post. She doesn't even have a job. How would she pay for all the baby stuff? Her parents were the ones that wanted her to have the baby. They said that they would have taken care of it ( like it was theres )



I love reading your posts. You are a really good poster and really intelligent. You are 100 percent right. Who was white or black?



Just shut up. Stupid,young and poor people? How do you know that I am not poor? This post is horrible.

Alot of people I know aren't on birth control. A lot of people just depend on condoms. For me to have sex with a girl the next time, she has to be on birth control. I am not taking anymore chances with just a condom.
Good for you. A lot of the kids you know probably have some form of STD too, you don't have to follow that path.
Keep in mind that girls lie, and they forget to take their pill. The only way to be completely safe is to show restraint until you feel you are ready. I know that is not hip, but it is true. Maybe you won't be so lucky with the next girl, she just may decide she wants it. Then what will you do?

Tony, pay attention to the facts below:
I'm not trying to scare you, I just want you to be aware. An orgasm lasts seconds, is it really worth the risk?

CONTRACEPTIVE USE
• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[1,9]
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:36 PM
 
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Your post proves my point. It was all about convenience with no thought to the innocent life. Catholic Charities would have adopted that baby to a loving home so that your "ex" girlfriend didn't ruin "her life". It was ok to kill that baby out of selfishness though in your mind and that of your "ex" as long as you were not inconvenienced.

Pathetic!
why should this young woman carry a child, go through labor and delivery then give the baby away to someone? just a few posts up are posts with examples of how adoption isn't always a great thing for the child. this young woman is not an incubator for childless couples. at the point of her abortion it was a fetus and not a baby, no one should have to carry to term a pregnancy they do not want.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You don't know what you are talking about. This is Maragaret Sanger

She is quoted as talking about human weeds, and our need to cultivate the garden. She wanted no charity for the genetically inferior or imbeciles, and a rigid policy for sterilization and segreagation, primarily for the African race.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

What does any of that have to do with birth control and abortion as it is practiced today, 2011?!

No one forces ANYONE to use BC or abortion.....it is a choice....a personal choice, made by women of all colors and of all economic status.

Some Planned Parenthoods are placed in poor neighborhoods, black or white, because that is where the people are that cannot afford to go to private doctors and pay high fees! And you see that as some grand, evil plan?

Why shouldn't the poor have access to the same reproductive services that the rich enjoy? Are the rich practicing eugenics on themselves when they take advantage of the reproductive medical resources that they can afford?

This is 2011 Claude, not 1930, quit living in the past. BTW....isn't that a sign of dementia?
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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What does any of that have to do with birth control and abortion as it is practiced today, 2011?!

No one forces ANYONE to use BC or abortion.....it is a choice....a personal choice, made by women of all colors and of all economic status.

Some Planned Parenthoods are placed in poor neighborhoods, black or white, because that is where the people are that cannot afford to go to private doctors and pay high fees! And you see that as some grand, evil plan?

Why shouldn't the poor have access to the same reproductive services that the rich enjoy? Are the rich practicing eugenics on themselves when they take advantage of the reproductive medical resources that they can afford?

This is 2011 Claude, not 1930, quit living in the past. BTW....isn't that a sign of dementia?
The Negro Project is alive and well - it is a black genocide. The progressives actively support black leaders that promote the weeding of the garden, under the guise of "choice". What this is really about is population control and eliminating the "undesirables". Note, I am against it, you are all for it.

Are you aware that PP has been caught telling a 15 year old, statutory rape victim, that she should lie about her age, so they don't have to report her abortion? Does that sound like good policy to you?
And when caught, did they change their policy? Hell no - they sued for being taped.

YouTube - ‪Planned Parenthood Exposed on O'Reilly Factor‬‏
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:01 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I think the black community has been devastated by liberals that tell them they are entitled to be taken care of, they need the state to provide for them, since they aren't capable of doing so themselves. It is you, that disrespect their race. We know they are just as capable as anybody else. You continue to subjugate them, by promoting blacks as less than capable, with lowering expectations.. We expect them to be held accountable for their behavior, just as anybody else is. That is treating everyone equally, not different because of skin color. Tell someone they are worthless long enough, they come to believe it. They can attain the same goals as anybody else, quit lowering the bar - they don't need your pity. They need self-respect - and nobody can provide that for them.
Yes many are poor, and live in violent communites where children are at great risk, but they live there because that is the environment you have provided for them. You and community organizers like Obama. If you don't keep them down, you can't continue to use them for your own agenda. Helping them kill their babies is not the solution to this problem. At this point, the problems are multi-faceted, and the solutions cannot come from the outside.
What a condescending bunch of tripe! I don't even know where to start with all your silly stereotypes and racist misinformation in this post. So I'll just ask a couple of questions: What exactly do you think the "liberal agenda" is that we need to keep "blacks down" to use for what evil purposes? One of the posters above has your number figured out, I think. You just want to pit blacks against white liberals---two groups you seem to hate with a passion that oozes out of your blighted soul. What do you think white women are who've had abortions?---"collateral damage" in this imaginary plot you think liberals have going against the black community?

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Old 07-04-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The Negro Project is alive and well - it is a black genocide. The progressives actively support black leaders that promote the weeding of the garden, under the guise of "choice". What this is really about is population control and eliminating the "undesirables". Note, I am against it, you are all for it.

Are you aware that PP has been caught telling a 15 year old, statutory rape victim, that she should lie about her age, so they don't have to report her abortion? Does that sound like good policy to you?
And when caught, did they change their policy? Hell no - they sued for being taped.

YouTube - ‪Planned Parenthood Exposed on O'Reilly Factor‬‏
I have an analogy for you:

Some priests are pedophiles - that means ALL priests are pedophiles - that means ALL men of God are pedophiles - and THAT means we should BAN religion.

See how that works?
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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What a condescending bunch of tripe! I don't even know where to start with all your silly stereotypes and racist misinformation in this post. So I'll just ask a couple of questions: What exactly do you think the "liberal agenda" is that we need to keep "blacks down" to use for what evil purposes? One of the posters above has your number figured out, I think. You just want to pit blacks against white liberals---two groups you seem to hate with a passion that oozes out of your blighted soul. What do you think white women are who've had abortions?---"collateral damage" in this imaginary plot you think liberals have going against the black community?
I've already told you what the ultimate agenda is, weed control, population control, save the planet. You are just going along with what you've been taught, and actually think you are assisting the downtrodden by making life easy for them - taking the burdens of responsibility off their shoulders. It just doesn't work that way. When people accomplish things on their own, they gain self esteem. When people can think for themselves, they acquire self-respect. As long as you keep them identifying as a group, you can use them to your advantage. That is why liberals love to label people, it allows you control over thoughts and behavior.
Only a progressive would come up with the concept of "free speech zones" on a university campus.
Labelling the tea party as old white racist tea baggers, allows people like you to dismiss the entire movement as a bunch of fools. The reality is that tea partiers are independents of any political party, they just want less government and freedom restored.
PP isn't going to say only blacks apply, their door is open to killing as many babies as possible. I noted that the gov't isn't even maintaining statistics on the numbers of abortions anymore. I believe the last count was 2008. Not that they were accurate anyway, but they did give us some idea. Whatever it is, it's too many.
You'll be surprised to hear that I too worry about overpopulation of the planet. However, killing children is not the answer. A more enlightened populace might be. Certainly a resurgence of self-respect and modesty would be an improvement. What every happened to valuing intellect over cup size?

I don't think you are evil, or women that choose abortion are evil. We have become an overly permissive society. Babies should not have to pay the price for our mistakes.
It is late, and I'm tired. Hope this makes some sense.
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:53 AM
 
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Good for you. A lot of the kids you know probably have some form of STD too, you don't have to follow that path.
Keep in mind that girls lie, and they forget to take their pill. The only way to be completely safe is to show restraint until you feel you are ready. I know that is not hip, but it is true. Maybe you won't be so lucky with the next girl, she just may decide she wants it. Then what will you do?

Tony, pay attention to the facts below:
I'm not trying to scare you, I just want you to be aware. An orgasm lasts seconds, is it really worth the risk?

CONTRACEPTIVE USE
• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[1,9]
WHOA! Hold the fort!


Here's the core of the problem for the anti-choice women haters:


"""An orgasm lasts seconds,"""



For anyone who sees sexual relations, the sex act, in that way...well, I don't know if I should feel sorry for them or laugh them off...BUT it does show what THEIR problem is



With "Rosy Palm" as their only girlfriend THEY never have to worry about pregnancy
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:56 AM
 
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Your post proves my point. It was all about convenience with no thought to the innocent life. Catholic Charities would have adopted that baby to a loving home so that your "ex" girlfriend didn't ruin "her life". It was ok to kill that baby out of selfishness though in your mind and that of your "ex" as long as you were not inconvenienced.

Pathetic!



YES! It's a convenience to be able to correct mistakes at a very young age so you don't suffer for it the rest of your life...NOR does the child!. It's the smart thing to do.

They did NOT kill any baby and you persecuting them as her scumbag parents are doing could lead to mental anguish and even suicide which I'm SURE YOU WANT ...because it's all about punishment isn't it!



I assume YOU NEVER correct your mistakes but just wallow in them because you wouldn't want people to think you took a convenient(intelligent) way out....that's dumb!

Oh wait! YOU never make mistakes which is why you think you're god and sit in judgement...


"Cathoilic Charities"??? You mean the Cathoilics who condone raping children ...ya, great people to dump a kid on!!





Yup, and you don't mind war killing "innocent life" no matter how much it costs because you think it protects your sorry butt.
Why aren't you so strident in protesting war???
Where WERE all the conservative anti-killing people when Bush advocated killing "innocent lives"????
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