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Old 07-01-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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I looked at your cite. Could not find anything that supports that Libertarians are for public libraries. FYI, creating voluntary endowments is not supporting libraries through taxpayer funding, although it is certainly helpful.

Anyone can say that support public libraries, where the rubber meets the road is whether they will pay for it with their taxes.
I was merely pointing out, not all libertarians are against
public libraries and taxation for such at the local level.
The link was for you to get a better understanding of libertarians, as you stated e.g. many don't serve political office.

Libertarians do not live on an island. We believe in limited government. And some of us, pick our battles carefully. For me - the public library is not one of them. Anyone that lives in any community will have tax dollars going to the public library. That's a given. How exhorbitantly so, is
addressed not only by Libertarians, but all taxpayers.

But interestingly, you need to know libraries originally
started out as private. Go to your library - check it out

For me - a town with out a public library (even a tiny one)
is kinda sad. The notion that all Libertarians are library
haters is just plain silly.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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I was merely pointing out, not all libertarians are against public libraries and taxation for such at the local level.
But alas that is the problem with libertarians, libertarians are so libertarian there is no telling what they think about one thing or another, from this hour to the next to say nothing of next week or next month. Libertarians to me are like socialist and anarchist, everything sounds so lovely until you start getting into the details of actually running a complex society.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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But alas that is the problem with libertarians, libertarians are so libertarian there is no telling what they think about one thing or another, from this hour to the next to say nothing of next week or next month. Libertarians to me are like socialist and anarchist, everything sounds so lovely until you start getting into the details of actually running a complex society.
We are not saints - we leave that to the Republicans
and Democrats

My feeling is, if we would incorporate even a half of libertarian thinking e.g. wars (foreign & drug) IRS, immigration,
what a wonderful, wonderful world this would be

Our society does not have to be as complex as it
is, at the federal level.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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My feeling is, if we would incorporate even a half of libertarian thinking e.g.wars (foreign & drug) IRS, immigration,
what a wonderful, wonderful world this would be
Outside of taxes, what would those "thinkings" be? I can ask 100 libertarians on there views and it seems that I get 101 answers.

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Our society does not have to be as complex as it
is, at the federal level.
Or at any level if folks would just do the right thing by one another.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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I think the better answer is that the Internet exists because of the COMBINATION of private ingenuity and public funding.

Entreprenuers have the ideas, but to implement it on a wide scale, you need somethng like the U.S. government.
The internet was a government creation.

Internet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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The internet was a government creation.

Internet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In fact the private sector rejected it deeming it of no commercial value. In point of fact when I authored my first webpage, showed it to the Managing Editor of my paper he said, and I quote, "so this is what people with no life do with their time." Needless to say, these are words that quite a few news paper managers have lived to rue.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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Outside of taxes, what would those "thinkings" be? I can ask 100 libertarians on there views and it seems that I get 101 answers.

Or at any level if folks would just do the right thing by one another.
No doubt about it, Libertarians are free thinkers, rarely united on the micro of topics, BUT -
ALL Libertarians are non-interventionists in regards to war and our foreign policy.
ALL Libertarians are for the repeal of the 16th amendment.
ALL libertarians are for the legalization of marijuana.
ALL libertarians are for lifting the prohibition on growing industrial hemp.

Those four issues alone, if done - would be the
best things that could happen to the United States and
it's citizens. IMO, - it would be utopia

So, you see - whether to pay tax to support a public
library pales in comparison to the biggies we all
share
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:43 PM
 
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You seem to know a every different class of Librarians that I do.I know quite a few and they are very self asorbed and call police at first hint of a stone person on anything;LOL.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:17 PM
 
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You seem to know a very different class of Libertarians that I do.I know quite a few and they are very self absorbed and call police at first hint of a stoned person on anything;LOL.
Maybe you just know a lot of Peeping Tom's or you live where there's a lot of wandering drunks, stoners.

Or maybe you just know a lot of *******s.

I always thought Republicans and Democrats were more
self absorbed than libertarians, thus wanting to pass all
those federal self interest bills
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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The internet was a government creation.

Internet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The government created the willingness and recognized the need for computers to talk together, but the "internet", that everyone comes to recognize today being the web was not created by the government. The internet of yesterday, used and created by government, is no where close to the internet of today.
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