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But then why didn't he pay the atheists for his burial? This man obviously believed in God and the Church.
But no matter - it doesn't involve you or your government. The deal was between him and his Church.
This guys was a practicing Catholic, that means that the intolerant atheist would have hated him for not following their "religion" either. A Gay man who believes in God and is an active member of a church is really in no mans land because the lefties want to support him but can't because he's an evil church goer.
This guys was a practicing Catholic, that means that the intolerant atheist would have hated him for not following their "religion" either. A Gay man who believes in God and is an active member of a church is really in no mans land because the lefties want to support him but can't because he's an evil church goer.
Horrible generalization. Lots of "lefties" are believers too. Opposing certain extremist divisions of a religion does not mean we find all church goers as evil.
Horrible generalization. Lots of "lefties" are believers too. Opposing certain extremist divisions of a religion does not mean we find all church goers as evil.
Great, how do you specifically feel about the Catholic church?
Oh and there are quite a few lefties who do in fact feel that church goers are evil.
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BTW, most organized religion (along with their followers) deserve to be degraded - at least those of the christian persuasion.
Great, how do you specifically feel about the Catholic church?
The Church is an institution, not an individual, and while I like certain aspects of Catholic tradition (mostly superficial ones like Latin mass, gothic cathedrals, the "ancient" feel to it, I believe it's a very corrupt institution like most of organized religion.
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Oh and there are quite a few lefties who do in fact feel that church goers are evil.
I'm sure that's true, but why are you lumping everyone in one box? Shall I view all "righties" as idiotic, uneducated fools who rely on blind faith and tradition while throwing their brain in the trash?
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Congratulations, she's all yours.
She doesn't speak for all of us. I consider organized religion to be very dangerous in many cases, but I do not believe in degrading all believers just because they follow said organized religion. It depends on each individual person's actions, behavior, and beliefs. Fred Phelps is evil, Mother Theresa, while being a member of a very corrupt organization, was not.
How cute..And the imaginary guy in a red body suit is going to roast his corpse for eternity because an imaginary god made him gay. Religion, where delusion becomes reality.
Well if you believe that religion is "imaginary" then why do you idiots care if he was burried by the catholic church or not.
Again, can't believe it. This guy was a member of this congregation for many years and I suppose MONEY helped sway the reversed decision.
He was entitled to a proper service by the church he went to and gave money to for so many years.
I'll admit, I get tired at times of all the gay threads in this forum (much like I tire of other threads in this forum), but then when I see what they are up against, it all makes sense. They are fighting for their rights and, granted, it's not like Rosa Parks quietly refusing to sit in the back of the bus and is more in your face, but there is a reason for it.
Please don't don't compare what Black people had to go through with gays. As a black person its very insulting. That arguments gets old quick.
Please don't don't compare what Black people had to go through with gays. As a black person its very insulting. That arguments gets old quick.
Did you know that there was a time when all states in the US punished the crime of being homosexual with the death penalty? Did you know that until the 1970s the law allowed for homosexuals to be involuntarily committed to mental institutions where they were subjected to such horrors as lobotomies and electric shock treatments? Granted, homosexuals had an easier time at hiding their "affliction" than Black people did, but nonetheless, they have been horribly mistreated over the history of the US when found out.
"I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream to make room at the table of brother and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people."
"Gays and lesbians stood up for civil rights in Montgomery, Selma, in Albany, Ga. and St. Augustine, Fla., and many other campaigns of the Civil Rights Movement. Many of these courageous men and women were fighting for my freedom at a time when they could find few voices for their own, and I salute their contributions."
"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood. This sets the stage for further repression and violence that spread all too easily to victimize the next minority group."
"I believe all Americans who believe in freedom, tolerance and human rights have a responsibility to oppose bigotry and prejudice based on sexual orientation."
Even though this gentleman was a member of the church for decades and left money to the church in his will; he initially was denied funeral services. However after public pressure the church relented and reversed it's initial decision.
Too bad the Catholic Church is not so quick to address it's pedophilia problems but will quickly deny a family funeral rights while they are grieving over their loved one.
A sad commentary on our society, it's values and organized religion. If not for the public outcry the church would never have reversed it's decision.
The homophobic agenda within this country and forum is truly appalling and treating your fellow man this way is something "your God" will make you answer for upon your demise........Love thy neighbor as you love yourself.
I find it ironic the Church was willing to take this man's money all his life and upon his death........
It seems many people loathe themselves as they post lies and misinformation to degrade any and all gay people and posters!
The Catholic Church is disgusting. I'm ashamed I was ever a member of that pedophile, human hating organization. The Catholic Church has a lot of blood on it's hands, and is responsible for the loss of innocence of untold numbers of little children. Sickening.
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This guy was a member of this congregation for many years and I suppose MONEY helped sway the reversed decision.
