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Old 07-13-2011, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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That's an odd point of view considering the metamorphosis of the Republican Party whose mainstream used to contain reasonable players, like Eisenhower, Rockefeller, Nixon, Jacob Javitts, Gerald Ford, etc. At the time, Ronald Reagan was considered to the right of mainstream Republicans. Today, the centrist Republican is as conservative as Barry Goldwater and the party itself is the same as the John Birch Society.

Hey, thats very judgemental!!!!

Democrats are SOCIALISTS!!!!

Republicans are just Democrats.

(hey, wait a minute . . .)
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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because liberals aka progressives aka democrats are a BRANCH of socialism called fascism
Direct evidence that you have no idea what fascism or socialism are.

Socialism is a set of theories of economic organization which advocate a society where the public or workers directly own and administer the means of production and its distrubtion and allocation. A socialist society is characterized by equal access to resources through an egalitarian method of compensation.

Fascism is a radical ideology that advocates a nationalistic and authoritarian single-party state and uses violence against dissenters. If the Democrats and Obama were fascist, the last thing you would be worrying about is that they want to raise your taxes by 3%.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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Direct evidence that you have no idea what fascism or socialism are.

Socialism is a set of theories of economic organization which advocate a society where the public or workers directly own and administer the means of production and its distrubtion and allocation. A socialist society is characterized by equal access to resources through an egalitarian method of compensation.

Fascism is a radical ideology that advocates a nationalistic and authoritarian single-party state and uses violence against dissenters. If the Democrats and Obama were fascist, the last thing you would be worrying about is that they want to raise your taxes by 3%.
Just FYI you're not going to be able to have an intelligent conversation with that dude.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I see many in here have a real problem sensing sarcasm
Won't be a problem if not for a mess of a post.

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1) All wealth is not a zero sum game.
Yes, it is. Limited resources, limited wealth.

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because liberals aka progressives aka democrats are a BRANCH of socialism called fascism
One more time: Socialism, by definition, does not call for private enterprise to take control of the government and its policies. Fascism does.

"The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and useful instrument in the interest of the nation."
- Benito Mussolini

OTOH, socialism calls for government's control where all people are deemed to be equal participants and private enterprise is deemed to be at a loss. Do you happen to have it the other way around?
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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The Democratic Party is pro capitalism.

A socialist party is pro socialism.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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I've hung out with enough socialists to know that none of that is true. The state owns everything and everything is collectively shared. That is not owning something, that's sharing
Funny how South Korea is kicking economic butt and North Korea is on it's economic butt...there is the difference for you.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Funny how South Korea is kicking economic butt and North Korea is on it's economic butt...there is the difference for you.
So North Korea is the result of socialism, period?

I suppose, in that case, that Somalia is the result of capitalism, period.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So North Korea is the result of socialism, period?

I suppose, in that case, that Somalia is the result of capitalism, period.
bad example

somolia is warlords , has not had a real government since the 90's civil war
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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bad example

somolia is warlords , has not had a real government since the 90's civil war
If you get a radio telescope, you might be able to see how far over your head my comment went.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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The last time I checked, pretty much every Republican politician in the country supports Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, the VA and a slew of other socialist programs. Of course, if I were a stupid simple minded right wing partisan who got my news from what retard I heard on talk radio every day then I'd probably ignore that idea too.
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