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The CEO of Gibson Guitars announced it on the Alex Jones Show...
The CEO of Gibson saying the government of Madagascar had no problem doesn't constitute anything except hearsay from someone who's truthfulness is rather suspect.
I just listened to the Peter Schiff interview with the Gibson CEO and he said that the Feds said that if he was manufacturing the guitars in Madagascar there would be NO PROBLEM. Imagine THAT! This company employs 1200 workers.
Which is it? Does the OBAMA administration want to facilitate the creation of jobs or DESTROY THEM AND SEND THEM OVERSEAS like it sounds like they are telling GIBSON to do? Not only that but the company has contacted their Congressmen and they are being told they "can't do anything while a Federal Investigation is going on". GEEZE! Is this screwed up or what????
Did you bother to read anymore on the subject than what a CEO is telling you?
Madagascar does not prohibit the exporting of finished items made of ebony, only the raw lumber (though cutting the trees itself is illegal). Hence, if finished guitars were exported from Madagascar, it could not be prosecuted under the Lacey Act. It's a bit of a loophole in the law for now.
If you tell your aide to purchase an illegal drug.......take the drug out of the country..and present it as a gift..are you stating this person is innocent...the guitar contains contraband according to the Justice department.
1. Please post your evidence that the First Lady told her aide to make an illegal purchase.
2. Please post your evidence that the guitar in question (which was manufactured and gifted prior to April 6, '09) contained wood that was imported in Sept '09. In fact, post your evidence that Gibson ever used any contraband wood prior to the Sept '09 importation.
3. You stated the Dept of Justice said the guitar purchased by the First Lady contained contraband. Please link to their statement
4. Please post your proof that the seized guitars were Hummingbirds. It may be true but I haven't seen that info anywhere. Since you made the claim, post your evidence. Or did you make it up in order to link this to the First Lady?
5. Please post the law that says all items of the same brand as an item seized as evidence during a warranted search are deemed "illegal" before any criminal charges have been filed, let alone a judgment in a court of law.
It's an ongoing investigation. There's been a (or 2?) warranted search(s) and a seizure of evidence. (6 guitars out of 2500 made each month in that plant) They seized computers, too. By your illogical thinking that means we are all in posession of illegal computers.
The CEO of Gibson saying the government of Madagascar had no problem doesn't constitute anything except hearsay from someone who's truthfulness is rather suspect.
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Did you bother to read anymore on the subject than what a CEO is telling you?
Madagascar does not prohibit the exporting of finished items made of ebony, only the raw lumber (though cutting the trees itself is illegal). Hence, if finished guitars were exported from Madagascar, it could not be prosecuted under the Lacey Act. It's a bit of a loophole in the law for now.
Apparently, it's not even that clear. Apparently, it is gthe interpretation of the US Justice Dept that interpret's both Madagacar and India law in that manner.
But, the countries of Madagascar and India do not interpret their own laws, in that manner.
Gibson, like Fender and many other guitar/bass manufactors have to abide by all laws, regulations, policies of those countries; when purchasing their ebony and rosewood. And Gibson has done so and they have all the paperworks required to prove it.
Otherwise, the woods would have neever been approved by Madagascar and India customs for export and then approved by USA customs....for import. And all batches were purchased through legal and proper cghannels and approved at the highest levels, at each of those countries. And Gibson have proved it in court, since the 2009 raid.
Since the first raid in 2009, the Federal government has failed to charge Gibson with anything....anything whatsoever. But they are still keeping the ebony and rosewood they stole from Gibson and they refuse to give it back; without even so much as one single legal merit.
Obama's administration is trying to bully Gibson into outsourcing jobs to India. And they tried to bully Gibsion into outsourcing American jobs to Madagascar, in 2004.
The CEO of Gibson saying the government of Madagascar had no problem doesn't constitute anything except hearsay from someone who's truthfulness is rather suspect.
Cite the Madagascar government stating Gibson's exports were illegal.
They have not designated the exports as illegal. If India and Madagascar allows such exports, Obama's DOJ has no right to act otherwise.
Not getting caught doesn't mean it's legal.
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