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Any plutocracy requires a permanent underclass. The Republican are working to solidify their existing privilege and the wealthy Democrats are doing all they can to help. The former middle class working people are being driven to poverty to expand the underclass in order to create a permenant pool of cheap labor.
So many of you seem to think that people "on the dole" are there because they want to be.
You might have a point if the unemployment rate were 5% and there were millions of high paying jobs that couldn't be filled because lazy people didn't get an education.
We have need for these programs because the country has an economy that's been going downhill for 30+ years, outsourced to death, and an income disparity that puts us in the same class as many 3rd world countries. So instead of looking at the real issue, you buy the propaganda from the right and say that it's really the bottom dwellers that are the problem. "GO OUT AND GET A JOB!!" What job?
And before you knee jerkers tell me to get off the dole, my household income is in the top 5%, so shut your middle class mouth.
We fund The Foreign Aid that goes to terrorists countries and now we know it funds the terrorists.
We fund illegals which creates more illegal babies born here.
We fund people who are able bodied who have generations of welfare takers
We fund guns to be given to the Mexican cartels who shoot and kill our agents
We fund programs that encourage the takers to keep on taking and want the Obama monies.
We fund the non working and punish the working by taxing their small paycheck who try to put food on the table without food stamps or other giveaways.
Legislation allows foreigners to go tax free on businesses which the American born have to pay taxes. This gives a leg up to foreigners. This makes it harder for Americans to make money on a new founded business. No help from the government.
It is all backwards. It is no wonder this country is getting weak.
Hey, life is tough. Never put yourself in a position in which you are a beggar and dependent upon the good will of the government. We are broke, therefore the entitlements (as well as the military) must be cut. Obama blew the treasury on "stimulus" and there is no money left.
************** If we taxed "the rich" (those making more than $250K per year) at 100% (slavery), we would only generate $900 billion in revenue (i.e. we would still have an annual deficit of $700 billion under current spending).
Why do liberals not understand this simple math?
Because it clashes with their blindly-held dogmatic ideology.
So many of you seem to think that people "on the dole" are there because they want to be.
You might have a point if the unemployment rate were 5% and there were millions of high paying jobs that couldn't be filled because lazy people didn't get an education.
We have need for these programs because the country has an economy that's been going downhill for 30+ years, outsourced to death, and an income disparity that puts us in the same class as many 3rd world countries. So instead of looking at the real issue, you buy the propaganda from the right and say that it's really the bottom dwellers that are the problem. "GO OUT AND GET A JOB!!" What job?
And before you knee jerkers tell me to get off the dole, my household income is in the top 5%, so shut your middle class mouth.
Righjt on!!!!
"Just think: Total payrolls today amount to 131 million, but this figure is lower than it was at the beginning of the year 2000, even though our population has grown by nearly 30 million."
Also: Harvard has higher acceptance rate than McDonald's!!!
One million people applied to Mc Donalds!!!
"Well, you know what? McDonald's ended up receiving approximately one million applications.
So how many of those people did McDonald's hire?
They hired about 62,000 people.
That means that somewhere around 938,000 eager job applicants were turned away.
Just think about that.
Only about 6.2 percent of those that applied for a job at McDonald's were accepted.
As Joe Weisenthal of Business Insider recently pointed out, that means that Harvard now has a higher acceptance rate than McDonald's does.
Harvard accepts about 7% of those that apply to go to school there.
Who ever thought we would see the day when a higher percentage of applicants get accepted into Harvard than get hired at McDonald's?"
No, not Boehners PR guy. Just someone who can take an objective view of things. Perhaps you should give it a try. Because all that can be taken from your rant is that you hate John Boehner and the GOP. That's it. There's nothing, and I mean nothing, to suggest that what you stated will come true. Furthermore, you have not provided any emperical data stating what Democrats will put forth. You've only provided what you think the GOP will offer. Where's the other side? What will they offer? Why did you leave that out?
I'll tell you why. Because your entire rant is Democrats Are Great, Republicans Are Awful tripe that is lacking in objectivity. If it wasn't then you'd provide an equally balanced portrayal of what you think Democrats will put forth. But you didn't.
TOTAL AND COMPLETE FAIL. Next time, don't try to disguise your hatred for conservatism in some ill-conceived rant and try to pass it off as an intelligent thought process.
Yes, I will agree that, unfortunately for you, your response is a TOTAL AND COMPLETE FAIL. What IS wrong with our schools today that they do not teach simple reading comprehension?
I gave a source that is highly respected and non-partisan and included the link. Since you missed it first time around, I'll re-post it just for you:
The empirical data has been thrown out on the table by Boehner himself for all to see:
Quote:
The Boehner plan envisions no tax increases, with its entire $1.8 trillion in additional deficit reduction coming from budget cuts. Speaker Boehner gave documents to House Republican caucus members stating that the $1.8 trillion would come from “entitlement reforms and savings” and that the plan “includes no tax hikes.”
Now what part of this can you not understand?
When the president and Boehner finally reached a new debt ceiling agreement (umm, you DO recall that happening, right?), they entered into a pact of what is essentially Mutually Assured Destruction. How clever of our government. Without an external enemy, it will simply turn on itself.
Like:
The deal postpones the biggest battle over deficit reduction, creating an even more cataclysmic clash that would occur most likely in a lame-duck congressional session after the 2012 election.
At that point, three huge events will loom:
1) across-the-board cuts in January 2013, with half of them coming from defense (amidst likely charges that they will jeopardize national security) - this BTW, answers your question in part about the Democrat's strategy
2) the scheduled expiration of President Bush's tax cuts at the end of 2012
3) the renewed specter of default if policymakers do not raise the debt ceiling quickly again by early 2013.
I am deeply unhappy with BOTH parties. However, the conservative side has committed the more egregious sins. You can waltz along and refuse to read anything reported by reputable sources, hole up in your house with your ears firmly glued to Fox, and have the incredible nerve to complain that others don't see the big picture.
"Just think: Total payrolls today amount to 131 million, but this figure is lower than it was at the beginning of the year 2000, even though our population has grown by nearly 30 million."
Also: Harvard has higher acceptance rate than McDonald's!!!
One million people applied to Mc Donalds!!!
"Well, you know what? McDonald's ended up receiving approximately one million applications.
So how many of those people did McDonald's hire?
They hired about 62,000 people.
That means that somewhere around 938,000 eager job applicants were turned away.
Just think about that.
Only about 6.2 percent of those that applied for a job at McDonald's were accepted.
As Joe Weisenthal of Business Insider recently pointed out, that means that Harvard now has a higher acceptance rate than McDonald's does.
Harvard accepts about 7% of those that apply to go to school there.
Who ever thought we would see the day when a higher percentage of applicants get accepted into Harvard than get hired at McDonald's?"
But they are lazy from living off the welfare state, they just don't want to work.
Can you see how twisted the minds of the those who habitually ingest right wing propaganda are? The ultra rich are "under attack", while people living below or near poverty levels are "moochers", to quote Neil Boortz.
Comparing able-bodied healthy but lazy college kids to elderly ill seniors needing Medicare is kind of far fetched don't you think?
Many of us didn't party and lay around playing video games when we went to college but actually worked our way through.
That's a good example of the entitlement attitude many now have. They want to go to college and get rich someday but they want the working people to pay their way. Why? Because they are too elite to have to work for something they want, something that will benefit them very nicely.
Exactly why should a factory worker be taxed to pay for someone's wonderful education so he or she will be well paid and look down on that factory worker?
Ah, I see. Another post from someone who is in the dark ages on the cost of college. In Utah, SLCC, full time is $1500 a semester. I know this because I went there. $3000 for two semesters, and add another $500 per semester for books, which are always expensive. Average rent is $400 for an apartment, not including the electric bill, which can run as high as $100 a month. The entire time I lived in Utah, I had to work full-time to pay for for part-time school. It just isn't doable. Once a person is done with their associates, the U, Weber and USU are all $2500 a semester, and $500 for each semester for books. Keep in mind an associates is typically worthless, so they're still making bupkiss for money. Where is a kid going to come up with that money? My dad worked his way through college and gave me the same bullcrap you did. When I showed him what SLCC - the community college - wanted for tuition he shut his hole real quick. The trade school is not any cheaper - the welding program nearest me was in the thousands and had a wait list, CNA school was $500 not including the state test and the books. I'm tired of hearing of how people should learn a trade, but in the meantime work a crap job to pay for school. It isn't doable. At all. School costs too much. Even trade school. And trade school isn't even eligible for federal financial aid. And Utah, by the way, is supposedly dirt cheap for college. So is California. My cousins out in Iowa are getting creamed on college.
And I'm tired of the wild drunken college student bullcrap. Not everyone who goes to college goes wild and parties and not everyone who goes to college acts snobbish towards factory workers. I keep reading how Americans need to go to school, at least trade school, because college and trade school are the way of the future, but no one wants to think of how young people are going to pay for it. A crap job at Macy's isn't going to pay for it, neither will Wally World or any other place that coeds work at.
And no, I don't think the comparison is foolish. We're so willing to hemorrhage the future of this country, while starving grandma, but by god, lets throw money at Haiti and pay for weed smoking monkeys. My point is if we cut because we are broke, IT ALL GETS CUT. I'm tired of hearing how some of the government cheese should be exempt. And it is a huge freaking entitlement and luxury that the old even get to retire and run around in RV's for years. Puh-lease. You mean to tell me that no one over 65 in this country is capable of work? Why don't they get off their lazy behinds. I've also worked in healthcare and have seen what medicare pays for and a lot of it is waste. After a certain age, when someone already has hundreds of health problems we should not be paying for their expensive surgeries. Period. Your tax dollars also go to paying for other people to take care of someone else's mother because the option is there, and because every old person must live independently. Independence is a luxury when you are old. Paying aides to take care of you on government money because your grown kids are brats is also a luxury.
You are right: there is an entitlement problem in this country. But its not just with the young, its with the old too. The government should not be paying for elderly people whose children should have stepped in and cared for them. But we do, and we waste thousands on it. Independence is a luxury. Having other people come in who are not relatives or other people you know is also a luxury. I'm tired of paying for the old to take Viagra for the sake of their "dignity." And I'm tired of paying for people who are too "busy" to take care of their own mothers.
Its a luxury to have a college education, to have other people pay for the babies you could not afford to have, and to live in your own home when you are 99, demented, convinced that its 1966, no longer capable of walking, and having the government send you nurses and aides to take care of you because your kids won't do it.
The old have as much of a racket going as the young.
Ah, I see. Another post from someone who is in the dark ages on the cost of college. In Utah, SLCC, full time is $1500 a semester. I know this because I went there. $3000 for two semesters, and add another $500 per semester for books, which are always expensive. Average rent is $400 for an apartment, not including the electric bill, which can run as high as $100 a month. The entire time I lived in Utah, I had to work full-time to pay for for part-time school. It just isn't doable. Once a person is done with their associates, the U, Weber and USU are all $2500 a semester, and $500 for each semester for books. Keep in mind an associates is typically worthless, so they're still making bupkiss for money. Where is a kid going to come up with that money? My dad worked his way through college and gave me the same bullcrap you did. When I showed him what SLCC - the community college - wanted for tuition he shut his hole real quick. The trade school is not any cheaper - the welding program nearest me was in the thousands and had a wait list, CNA school was $500 not including the state test and the books. I'm tired of hearing of how people should learn a trade, but in the meantime work a crap job to pay for school. It isn't doable. At all. School costs too much. Even trade school. And trade school isn't even eligible for federal financial aid. And Utah, by the way, is supposedly dirt cheap for college. So is California. My cousins out in Iowa are getting creamed on college.
And I'm tired of the wild drunken college student bullcrap. Not everyone who goes to college goes wild and parties and not everyone who goes to college acts snobbish towards factory workers. I keep reading how Americans need to go to school, at least trade school, because college and trade school are the way of the future, but no one wants to think of how young people are going to pay for it. A crap job at Macy's isn't going to pay for it, neither will Wally World or any other place that coeds work at.
And no, I don't think the comparison is foolish. We're so willing to hemorrhage the future of this country, while starving grandma, but by god, lets throw money at Haiti and pay for weed smoking monkeys. My point is if we cut because we are broke, IT ALL GETS CUT. I'm tired of hearing how some of the government cheese should be exempt. And it is a huge freaking entitlement and luxury that the old even get to retire and run around in RV's for years. Puh-lease. You mean to tell me that no one over 65 in this country is capable of work? Why don't they get off their lazy behinds. I've also worked in healthcare and have seen what medicare pays for and a lot of it is waste. After a certain age, when someone already has hundreds of health problems we should not be paying for their expensive surgeries. Period. Your tax dollars also go to paying for other people to take care of someone else's mother because the option is there, and because every old person must live independently. Independence is a luxury when you are old. Paying aides to take care of you on government money because your grown kids are brats is also a luxury.
You are right: there is an entitlement problem in this country. But its not just with the young, its with the old too. The government should not be paying for elderly people whose children should have stepped in and cared for them. But we do, and we waste thousands on it. Independence is a luxury. Having other people come in who are not relatives or other people you know is also a luxury. I'm tired of paying for the old to take Viagra for the sake of their "dignity." And I'm tired of paying for people who are too "busy" to take care of their own mothers.
Its a luxury to have a college education, to have other people pay for the babies you could not afford to have, and to live in your own home when you are 99, demented, convinced that its 1966, no longer capable of walking, and having the government send you nurses and aides to take care of you because your kids won't do it.
The old have as much of a racket going as the young.
But a minimum wage job will pay you at least $10,000 a year - and like I said the able bodied can work for a living and for what they want.
The government should not be paying for elderly people who never paid into the system but keep in mind, social security and medicare were forced on people and if they paid in, then they should get what they worked for -- their own money.
I worked my way through college so I definitely know it can be done.
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