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Despite spending more money then any other country on Earth on healthcare, we are 41st in the world in infant mortality.
Best healthcare in the world, if you can afford it.
Where did that even come in to play?
From your "source":
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What is causing newborn babies to die?
There are three major culprits: Preterm delivery, asphyxia (lack of oxygen), and infections. Each of these is easily preventable. "Training more midwives and other community health workers could save the lives of many more babies," says Lawn, who works with the nonprofit Save the Children. "We know that solutions as simple as keeping newborns warm, clean, and properly breastfed can keep them alive."
Lawn is an idiot.
But what is Lawn saying? Midwives aren't trained well enough to save the lives of those born under their watch? They don't KNOW that keeping newborns warm, clean and fed are no brainers? Is Lawn referring to midwives that do "home births"?
That's more than pathetic.
What hospital doesn't keep newborns warm, clean and properly fed? BF is not necessary for infants being "properly" nourished. Bring your midwife with you to the hospital...the OB resident on call will take over when midwife can't handle it any longer.
Midwives? They PUSH their own agenda...and really don't like getting shoved aside when their time is up and things aren't working out as "celestially" as they wanted them to.
Community health workers? Who are they? What do they know?
Get your ass to a hospital so the infant can be kept warm, clean and properly fed and monitored - by people who have a clue and will be there 24/7. And 12 hours later, when infant is gasping for breath...
Unfortunately for too many it's all about the mom having the "I am woman, hear me roar" experience, not about the baby. I feel for those kids... it's always going to be about "What a great mom I am b/c I do A, B and C". They can't ever seem to remove themselves from the fact that they ain't the only girls in the world to give birth - let alone get over it and move on.
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Funny how those who scream about abortions and babies being killed don't want to fork out the money to make sure they live past birth.
Funny how you went from your point "A" to something else that has nothing to do with your original few sentences of your OP. Apples and oranges - to the topic YOU brought up.
Last edited by Informed Info; 09-01-2011 at 10:35 PM..
No, you only posted one paragraph, not the entire article.
Huh? Are you suggesting posting quotes from articles is cherry picking? You clearly do not understand what cherry picking means. Please feel free to post a quote from the article that undermines my point.
And of course posting the entire article is against the TOS.
We can quote all the statistics we want and argue about them all we want. As the saying goes, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
In reality, we have a pretty good health care system. The problem is that we pay twice as much as other developed countries for a broadly equivalent outcome.
We can quote all the statistics we want and argue about them all we want. As the saying goes, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
In reality, we have a pretty good health care system. The problem is that we twice as much as other developed countries for a broadly equivalent outcome.
I think you left out a word and I think that word is spend. I agree, as with education, there is little correlation between money spent and outcomes.
By the way, I would be happy to view any facts that undermine anything I have presented. No one has yet done so.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be deliberately misleading or you simply don't understand their point. The piece was replete with non healthcare reasons for infant mortality. The part you bolded reinforces their point. To paraphrase, infant mortality is due to many more factors than healthcare.
That is why the health system does not perform. It is not structured to deliver the product to the reality as well as other options would...and it costs way too much for poor outcome.
I think you left out a word and I think that word is spend. I agree, as with education, there is little correlation between money spent andoutcoes.
By the way, I would be happy to view any facts that undermine anything I have presented. No one has yet done so.
In your view I am sure that is true. However you have actually presented nothing that contradicts the basic facts. The US spends outrageous sums on health care and gets a weak outcome.
But I did love that analysis.. It is really nice to see a tech guy write something that complex and readable.
That is why the health system does not perform. It is not structured to deliver the product to the reality as well as other options would...and it costs way too much for poor outcome.
Needs fixing.
Of course, outcomes are not poor. But I do agree we spend too much, and that is because a third party pays for virtually all healthcare. If folks had to pay for healthcare from their own pockets you would see costs drop like a stone. As things stand now their is no incentive for consumers to use healthcare rationally.
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