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Old 09-18-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I don't know exactly where I fit into this hate-fest, but I can tell you that I went to an Ivy league school, served in the infantry in Vietnam, do not follow any organized religion, supported Jimmy Carter, was puzzled by the worship of Ronald Reagain, worked on Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign, voted for John McCain out of respect for his service, but felt real joy for the country when it elected Obama our first black President, supported Mr. Obama for the first part of his administration, but now feel that he is a brainy, politically astute man who unfortunately is incompetent as a chief executive and needs to be replaced.

Does that make me stupid, a la Ms. Dowd? Or just part of our vast, diverse electorate which she and the rest of the coastal chattering classes hold in such contempt while knowing so little about us?
No you sound like a sane and rational person.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Baloney, shorebaby, the redneck, backwards, uneducated segment of the GOP who represent a disproportinate portion of the primary voting flock, are catered to lock, stock, and barrel..hence the phony "I'm an everyman routine from all of the GOP candidates". That mentality disses education, and truthfully, is self-defeating, hence the high un/under-employment in good and bad economies in rural Amwerica.

To be frank, this group, sans Romney, have FEW accomplishments. Most county clerks have more power than a Texas gov (due to their absurd structure), no one who was part of DC amongst the GOP gang has much of a record as anything but a follower, Romney is the only one who exercised actual government executive power.
Don't forget Huntsman, he's an accomplished man himself.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Baloney, shorebaby, the redneck, backwards, uneducated segment of the GOP who represent a disproportinate portion of the primary voting flock, are catered to lock, stock, and barrel..hence the phony "I'm an everyman routine from all of the GOP candidates". That mentality disses education, and truthfully, is self-defeating, hence the high un/under-employment in good and bad economies in rural Amwerica.

To be frank, this group, sans Romney, have FEW accomplishments. Most county clerks have more power than a Texas gov (due to their absurd structure), no one who was part of DC amongst the GOP gang has much of a record as anything but a follower, Romney is the only one who exercised actual government executive power.

Call it what you like, it is the truth. As much as the left hates NASCAR watching, hunting, God fearing, middle Americans. They are a much smarter lot than given credit for. It is the left that caters to folks by giving them things and making them a dependent class. They count on the permanent underclass they have created to continue their hold on government.

I disagree with your assessment of the achievements of the Republican field, but every one of them has achieved more than Obama before he was elected.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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So you think the religious right wasn't a factor in the 2000 and 2004 elections?
The religious rights influence is marginal at best. The influence of religious folks has been wildly exaggerated since its decline in the early 1990's. The election and re-election of Bill Clinton is proof of that.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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True, NorthGaBound, and I do admire Newt's intellect, though if he'd only learn to throw in some howdy's, how much he loves to shoot deer, how much he loves to draw crosshairs, than maybe he'd have a shot at the nomination.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:22 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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The religious rights influence is marginal at best. The influence of religious folks has been wildly exaggerated since its decline in the early 1990's. The election and re-election of Bill Clinton is proof of that.
Not so sure. Bush's evangelicalism was a big draw in the last decade. I think it's only now begun to decline as the culture wars took a back seat to the Great Recession.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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shorebaby:"hates NASCAR watching, hunting, God fearing, middle Americans. They are a much smarter lot than given credit for."

No they aren't, but they are easy to persuade to any set of beliefs. They are resourceful, as were our earliest settlers hundreds of years ago, but smart..NO. I feel sorry for them, as now, like always, they are played for votes.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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See, I don't think that's correct. I see that the left thinks education is more important in a leader than a Republican. It just happens that most prominent left wingers are from the coasts, which happen to have most of the elite universities. If Dems were more prominent in the South, you'd see them hail from Chapel Hill, UVA and Georgia Tech. A Republican (mostly) thinks that if you can have a beer with the guy, then he must be good enough to be president. Of course there are intellectual conservatives, but nobody listens to them anyway, so they're not important to the movement. The real drivers are the Rick Perrys, Sarah Palins and that ilk. And the current crop of GOP candidates strikes me as so bad in this regard, that I actually am starting to miss George W. Now that I just said that, I think i need to wash my mouth out.
Lol, the advent of jet travel has made geography pretty much irrelevant. As a matter of fact, it is probably more difficult for people from the Northeast to get into the Ivys as they have been traditionally over represented.

More condescention, and ridiculous projection. We have an alleged intellectual in the White House today and the results are abysmal. Republicans are pragmatists, show us what you have done. If your education credentials are great all the better.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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shorebaby:"hates NASCAR watching, hunting, God fearing, middle Americans. They are a much smarter lot than given credit for."

No they aren't, but they are easy to persuade to any set of beliefs. They are resourceful, as were our earliest settlers hundreds of years ago, but smart..NO. I feel sorry for them, as now, like always, they are played for votes.
Too funny, and the left wonders why they are disdained by these folks.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Not so sure. Bush's evangelicalism was a big draw in the last decade. I think it's only now begun to decline as the culture wars took a back seat to the Great Recession.
You can think what you like, but the facts prove otherwise.
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