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Old 09-24-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Just days after Gen. Walt Natynczyk, Canada’s chief of defence staff, left Moscow after meeting his counterpart last weekend, a Russian official announced that the country would be increasing its Arctic military presence, a move that could increase tensions in the resource-rich area.

Anton Vasilev, a special ambassador for Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, was quoted this week by the Interfax news agency as saying his country would be beefing up its presence in the Arctic, and that NATO was not welcome there.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was in Iceland this week meeting with the country's leaders, with the Arctic being at the top of the agenda, local media reported. Putin, according to the Moscow Times, then announced that Russia would be ordering three nuclear and six diesel icebreakers to be delivered by 2020, with the goal of expanding transportation in the Arctic.
In July, Russia said it would create two specialist brigades to be based in the Arctic. It’s not known if the latest announcement is tied to that declaration or if additional forces will be moved to the region.
Russians move to bolster Arctic forces - *News - MSN CA

I mean I think Canada should buy or place a order for some US built Icebreakers and buy a few US destroyers and frigates and increase our F-35 order ASAP.

I mean Russia just made a threat to NORAD time for Canada to upgrade it's airforce and navy to 21st century standards then U.S. and Canadian forces both can go meet Russia and secure the arctic.
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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PM. KGB Putin is going to make the run for Russian President again. I would expect the saber rattling from Russia to only get worse while Obama is in office.
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:34 PM
 
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PM. KGB Putin is going to make the run for Russian President again. I would expect the saber rattling from Russia to only get worse while Obama is in office.
Honestly, it wouldnt matter who is in office, Putin is a megalomaniac in the (sic) best Russian tradition.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:16 PM
 
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I mean Russia just made a threat to NORAD time for Canada to upgrade it's airforce and navy to 21st century standards then U.S. and Canadian forces both can go meet Russia and secure the arctic.
What kind of delusional nonsense is that? I don't see any threat.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:32 PM
 
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Yeah, true. Very dangerous ...

I also heard they wanna enroll the remaining polar bears into their military and train them to deliver long distance nuclear bombs with the accuracy of 0.003 miles.
We gotta do smthg about that folks, don't you think?
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:39 PM
 
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Yeah, true. Very dangerous ...

I also heard they wanna enroll the remaining polar bears into their military and train them to deliver long distance nuclear bombs with the accuracy of 0.003 miles.
We gotta do smthg about that folks, don't you think?
Are there any remaining polar bears? I thought they were all drowning since the ice has melted.

I think the Canadians will let us know when they want any help. We'll just take care of Alaska. Maybe Sarah Palin will let us watch the Russians from her house.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:44 PM
 
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Are there any remaining polar bears? I thought they were all drowning since the ice has melted..

Some are drowning, some are acting like submarines carrying a deadly load of nuclear explosives .

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I think the Canadians will let us know when they want any help. We'll just take care of Alaska. Maybe Sarah Palin will let us watch the Russians from her house.
Whenever she is not too busy with chasing and slaughtering Alaskan wolves from Helicopters...
Or may be when she kills all the wolves she will rent out the hellicopters to watch the Russians.. or may be even she can also exterminate the remaining polar bears, since she kills the wolves anyways, so will make it easy..

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Old 09-25-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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What kind of delusional nonsense is that? I don't see any threat.
The Russians send submarines deep below the North Pole. The Americans dispatch surveillance planes to monitor new threats in the North. And Canada scrambles to defend territories it has ignored for too long.

In 2007, the stakes were raised considerably when Russia launched a naval manoeuvre designed to plant an actual Russian flag, in a titanium capsule, at the base of the North Pole, 4,200 metres below sea level.
Russia's game plan was to extend its territory almost up to the Pole itself, to claim the vast mineral and energy resources many feel lie underneath the Arctic ice.

The North Pole is considered an international site and is administered by the International Seabed Authority. But if a country can prove its underwater shelf is an extension of its continental border, then it can claim an economic zone based on that.

And that's what Russia is doing by systematically charting the reach of its Lomonosov underwater shelf. As a spokesman for its Arctic and Antarctic Institute said, "It's like putting a flag on the moon."
For Canadians, of course, this is more like waving a red flag in front of a bull.


Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which Canada ratified in 2003, coastal countries have the right to control access to the belt of shoreline along their coasts. Barring some exceptions, that belt is 12 nautical miles (22.2 kilometres) wide. But the waterways dividing some of the islands in Canada's north are often nearly 100 kilometres wide. That would seem to leave plenty of room down the middle for foreign ships.


Every country now controls the resources under its coastal waters up to 200 nautical miles from its shore. Under the treaty, a country's territory can be expanded much further if you can prove the ridges and rock formations underneath the water are connected to your continental shelf.
But it's a race against time. Countries have 10 years from when they sign the treaty to submit their scientific data to a UN commission. Canada has just four years left — until 2013.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/02/27/f-arctic-sovereignty.html
it has been heating up between Russia and Canada showing a military presence there as the U.N. deadline draws near.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:24 AM
 
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Are there any remaining polar bears? I thought they were all drowning since the ice has melted.

I think the Canadians will let us know when they want any help. We'll just take care of Alaska. Maybe Sarah Palin will let us watch the Russians from her house.
you just retired the main U.S. Coast Guards Polar Class icebreaker and that means we only have left 3 from the 70's and 80's to do arctic patrols.

I mean it is hard to make a claim at the U.N. when we cannot even get up there and access it 5-6 months out of the year.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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.... And Canada scrambles to defend territories it has ignored for too long..



If Canada is more preoccupied to control the population of seals in the Arctics then figuring their territories, why should the US take care of their problems? We have wolves to hunt.

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