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Well the great orator has already said he believes that DOMA is unconstitutional and has told the DOJ to not defend it in court which is by the way yet another direct violation of the big piece of paper. See Obama doesn't need the supreme court to tell him what is unconstitutional or not as he went to Harvard.
I'm not sure where on that big piece of paper does it say that a President must spend $$$ to defend every single law in court. Btw, pretty much every President has had laws they chose not to defend legal challenges to. This is nothing new.
I'm not sure where on that big piece of paper does it say that a President must spend $$$ to defend every single law in court. Btw, pretty much every President has had laws they chose not to defend legal challenges to. This is nothing new.
What cracks me up is most constitutional scholars believe D.O.M.A. is both unconstitutional and indefensible.
Yet Republicans spend tens of Millions of dollars writing the bill, implementing it and now defending it.
Yet rant away about wanting a smaller government, that spends less money with a smaller budget derficit.
"He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."
"He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."
Try again.
Where does that say defend legal challenges in court?? They aren't declaring the invalid, its still the law. They just aren't spending $$$ to defend legal challenges to the law in court. This again is nothing new, its something that has occurred during most administrations including multiple times for Bush 41 and the right's beloved Reagan.
Since churches want to meddle in politics, politics should meddle in their church. Conclusion: Separate church and state already if you don't want either to happen!
So only atheists are allowed to be politicians?
Guess what. Separation of church and state is not in the constitution. The fact is that the 1st ammenent protects our right (and our leaders' rights) to vote using religion as the guide as much as it protects the rights of atheists to vote using secular reasoning.
If you think we should be forced to go against our moral code just because it happens to coincide with a religious group, then you are violating our 1st amendment rights.
You people forget something very very important... the reason the government recognizes straight marriage is because it benefits from the marriage. The state doesn't benefit from gay marriage. The state isn't in the business of "being nice." It's in the business of protecting the welfare of the overall population.
I'd like to clear up something about churches/religion and gay marriage. NO ONE is asking and/or forcing ANY church OR religion to either endorse gay marriage and/or to perform gay marriages.
ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE!!! And also people are losing their jobs in states that legalized gay marriage if they practice their first amendment rights and refuse to stamp a gay marriage certificate.
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Conversely some churches and religions are trying to use their dogma and beliefs to influence public opinion and policy and essentially to forge their agenda into our social institutions.
It is some religions and churches that are furthering discrimination against gays by funding anti-gay organizations.....essentially acting like paid political lobbyists.
These types of churches are violating the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state and should therefore forfeit and lose their current, special, tax exempt status.
Please show me where the separation of church and state is "constitutionally mandated."
Atheistic organizations are allowed to donate. Why can't religious organizations be allowed to donate to protect their own self interests?
Cheese. You can cut the ignorance in here with a frikkin knife.
You people forget something very very important... the reason the government recognizes straight marriage is because it benefits from the marriage. The state doesn't benefit from gay marriage. The state isn't in the business of "being nice." It's in the business of protecting the welfare of the overall population.
Well the great orator has already said he believes that DOMA is unconstitutional and has told the DOJ to not defend it in court which is by the way yet another direct violation of the big piece of paper. See Obama doesn't need the supreme court to tell him what is unconstitutional or not as he went to Harvard.
YES! Amen brother!!! It's not Obama's right to decide the constitutionality of anything. And the Supreme Court has ALREADY deemed DOMA to be constitutional.
I'm not sure where on that big piece of paper does it say that a President must spend $$$ to defend every single law in court. Btw, pretty much every President has had laws they chose not to defend legal challenges to. This is nothing new.
He doesn't defend the law. The department of justice is charged with that task. And he commanded them not to defend it, and in so doing he violated the law.
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