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nor have we seen any of the birthers demanding a LFBC from perry, rubio, cain, romney........ ( i do believe bachmann showed her birth certificate at one point but she didn't make it available to orly taitz's crack team of forensic investigators ).
ROTFL! I'd forgotten Orly; maybe she went back to being a dentist.
so do you believe now that obama is eligible to be POTUS.
I'm not a birther. I never questioned his birthright. But I believe that his extremely close ties to other countries was enough to righfully ask to see his birth certificate. Whether you are Left or Right, you should agree with me. To NOT agree is taking Partisanship at the expense of the Constitution to stratospheric levels.
If someone can prove the same circumstance exists for the current crop of candidates, i'll ask to see their BC's as well.
But I believe that his extremely close ties to other countries was enough to righfully ask to see his birth certificate. Whether you are Left or Right, you should agree with me.
but we did see it and it was confirmed by the hawaiian DoH long before the election.
we went over this in the other thread. your link says nothing about the clinton campaign. yes, some of the early ( but not all ) birthers were hillary supporters. most notably phil berg. but they had no direct connection to the hillary campaign.
You're splitting hairs here. The original birther had a pretty direct connection to the campaign:
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Originally Posted by Avlon
As a Democratic precinct captain in Medina County, Starr had volunteered for the Clinton campaign during the hotly contested June Lone Star State primary and served as a Clinton delegate at the state convention
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Did birtherism come straight from the mouth of Hillary? No. But did it come out of the Hiillary campaign? Yes. That was its genesis. That's all I'm saying, and it's fairly well documented.
No. But did it come out of the Hiillary campaign? Yes. That was its genesis. That's all I'm saying, and it's fairly well documented.
where is it documented that it came from hillary's campaign? from your link the closest we get is " They were a splinter group of hard-core Hillary Clinton supporters .....". not campaign workers or volunteers, just supporters. being "hard-core" doesn't mean they had any direct access/connection to the campaign, just that they were very passionate. if you do have any evidence of a direct connection i'd love to see it but....... as of right now there is no evidence i've seen linking the clinton campaign to bitherism.
edit: just saw that she was a volunteer. apologies on that front.
Starr had volunteered for the Clinton campaign during the hotly contested June Lone Star State primary and served as a Clinton delegate at the state convention
Seems as though it came out of the Clinton campaign to me. If you prefer to label it as 'hard core Hillary Clinton supporters,' fine.
Seems as though it came out of the Clinton campaign to me. If you prefer to label it as 'hard core Hillary Clinton supporters,' fine.
when i get a chance i want to look more into it. i'm not doubting that hillary supporters ( or even volunteers ) were early birthers. we know that some were and honestly i'd laugh myself silly if obama had hillary to directly thank for the birthers. it's just a big leap to think the campaign is directly responsible ( altho not an unreasonable idea ). i'm just interested to look up the known timeline on birtherism and see where things fit.
altho one fragment of the birther fiasco we know came outside of hillary. that's the "2parent/de vattel" birthers. that theory was first introduced by leo denofrio one week before the election.
I'd like to see the birth records of all the current GOP hopefulls. I believe they must all be aliens. They sure don't think like any human being I know.
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