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In case you haven't noticed.....this country cannot provide jobs and a decent living for the ones that are already here.
Why bring more life into the world.......life that is not even wanted by its own parents? Life is hard enough as it is when you have parents that actually want you..........and even then......many of those children end up abused and neglected......and you want to force parenthood?
Exactly. Copulation could wind up in conception is a fact.
Discovering she's pregnant, finding herself with a difficult decision and then being made to look at an ultrasound of the fetus? That's playing on emotion.
The woman knows what's going on inside her without an ultrasound.
Then what is the problem,she already knows what is going on...
Most woman don't need to see a sonogram to know whats going on. Some have already had children and are intimately familiar with the whole process. I don't see the point unless someone is on the fence and wants to have one before deciding. That's fine. But to assume everyone has to have one is beyond logical and I think the folks supporting this know it...which is why we get the "are you afraid they will change their minds?" type of arguments. The only possible reaction to knowing you are wrong is being stupid on top of it.
It appears those who do not want more information available fear the patient might actually change their mind....and somehow that is seen as a bad thing.
This was nothing but an attempt at state level to make getting a safe and LEGAL abortion even more difficult for women. I am so glad this judge took this stand.
I actually have no problem with the waiting period. I think a short waiting period is appropriate for all elective surgical procedures.
I have been so worried about these state restrictions which are just a subtle "back door" attempt to make abortions unattainable. I am very happy that there are some judges willing to do what's right.
Excellent News Cinebar, thanks for posting it
I have not read through the replies but I am sure the same old genetic regressives hee will attack you for posting the news. A BIG win for ALL American Women. Now on to Texas to put a stop to Perrys game there.
You are correct,it appears many proponents of abortion have no idea of the history of Planned Parenthood,have no idea of the reasons for the majority of abortions in this country but DO know that seeing an ultrasound might change the mind of someone so fragile but so much in control that she can make that decision...
So women are too easily swayed by a picture or sound of a heartbeat,but are also totally in control and logical about making the decision...
You also think very little about women and aren't quite as pro-choice as you say you are.
How about when you get pregnant, you make those decisions for yourself. Until then, leave the rest of us alone to make our own choices.
Do not tell me how I think about women from one snippet of a minor detail. This is thinking about the other life being affected and has little bearing on taking someones choice away. A person can be pro-choice and still be somewhat reluctant due to the heavy decision. A little reverence never hurt anyone.
Oh please! Are you saying you could pick your fetus out of a "line up"? LMAO!
Accountability = terminating a pregnancy you do not want......for whatever reason.
It's not a pregnancy which is terminated.
It's a child.
Why is it I can never discuss the abortion issue with an abortion supporter (sorry..."abortion rights supporter") without all the benign sounding special words and phrases being used to downplay what is really being discussed?
"Glob of tissues"
"Terminate the pregnancy"
"Pro choice"
"Choice"
And the classic, "I don't support abortion but I respect the right of a woman to choose."
To choose what?
Who talks like this when the subject isn't abortion?
You people act as though you're actually keeping what an abortion is a secret.
No, they will say would you like to see your kidney stones or your gallbladder, and then you can say...Yes, yes I would like to, or No, I would prefer not to and I waive my right to see them. That handles the malpractice. In this case you are saying would you like to see an ultrasound...No? That's too bad, the state says otherwise.
Who decided that an abortion did not involve the intentional killing of an innocent third party?
Abortion is not like other surgeries.
Even Roe acknowledges as much, but Roe simply asserts that the mother has a right to kill her child because it's no one else's business if she does.
The USSC got around the whole homicide issue by declaring the fetus a non-person. They did this in much the same way they decided African slaves were non-persons. This made the issue of slavery nothing more than one of property rights. Convenient then and convenient now.
Maybe someday we will come to realize we should never give people the power to declare other people non-persons. The whole Bill of Rights becomes mute if government may freely decide who is or is not a person such that all rights are denied at will.
The bottom line is that a judge has ruled that a woman terminating a pregnancy should not have something forced on her as a condition of her getting the procedure.
For all you "less government" people, this should be a good thing.
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