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Old 10-29-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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What ever happened to honest pay for honest work? If you have to bust ass for 70+ hours a week, just to make a living, that is a significant problem. If you're working 70+ hours a week, and can survive it--good for you, I hope you go on to do well.

But why should that be the standard? Not everyone wants to be rich, some people just want to be able to live, and they can't do that working 40 hours a week, not anymore. Two jobs and no time for your kids shouldn't be the norm.
I'd love to see the discretionary/mandatory spending of people claiming "what ever happened to honest pay for honest work?"
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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I'd love to see the discretionary/mandatory spending of people claiming "what ever happened to honest pay for honest work?"
50% of working persons make 33k and less. How does one travel the American Dream doing such? You can't buy a house no that, you can barely afford a car, nevermind trying to raise families--which people barely do even with copious government support.

What's the discretionary and mandatory spending of executives making 3000x their employees?
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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I'd ask you to look over what you just wrote.

What I just read tells me that you were for people being unemployed because it kept your rent down and when people started to get employed, en masse, you got left behind. Effectively your for keeping people down as long as you can be up. That's the liberal standpoint that is turning this country into a crap whole.

I was for it before I was against it.

But seriously, I would spin it in the other direction: my experience demonstrates that a rising tide does not lift all boats, and further, that boats not lifted by a rising tide get capsized.

I'm for free markets in labor AND in housing. Rents soared because employment soared while NIMBY prevented the supply of housing to keep up with increased demand.

NIMBY liberals at least will tax people to house poor people in someone else's neighborhood when rents soar.

NIMBY conservatives have absolutely NO answer to the problem described above.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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As an example of how tough it is to get a job suppose you live in a smallish city and one of the major employers shuts down an assembly plant thats been there for decades, all of a sudden you have a 1000+ production workers looking for a job along with those that are already unemployed.think your chances of finding employment is going to be easy if you only have experience working in that factory for the last 20+ years.
Play this scenario over 1000's of times.

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Did you even read the OP? Talk about missing the point completely...
Yeah its about The OWS crowd and "finding" a job
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