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Old 10-31-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Who cares if culture changes? Change is the only constant. Get used to it.
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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Who cares if culture changes? Change is the only constant. Get used to it.
Hmm... interesting. Do you consider that every aspect of our culture and society should change? Morals, ethics, political structure etc? Perhaps, one day murder will be condoned... Does progressivism and change apply to concepts, institutions and ideas that have existed for centuries or millennia? You must admit that change is not always a good thing.
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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Things always change. Are there still Picts in Scotland? Whole peoples move and either blend in or displace others.
In my family (an American family) for instance: I married a Mexican national who claims to be 3/4 Aztec and 1/4 Spanish (she does look like what we call a "Native American Indian" but anyway ...) so my kids are half Mexican, I also have cousins that are half Puerto Rican, Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, Half African-American etc etc. 50 years ago most if not all of my family was very European in background, that has all changed. Also we were a 100% Southern family. All of that has changed. Things change, have fun or deal with it.
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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Whether you agree or disagree with the Pope's comments, muslim immigration and demographic shifts in Europe are very real issues. I lived in Paris for a few months and can tell you that it's suburbs are largely composed of a muslim majority. Furthermore, in 2011 the ethnic makeup of Amsterdam was 49.7% Dutch and 50.3% foreigners.
To add on to that, unlike in the United States, in Europe the suburbs are usually the poorer part of a metropolitan area while the inner city tend to be the wealthiest part of the region (with a few exceptions.)
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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To add on to that, unlike in the United States, in Europe the suburbs are usually the poorer part of a metropolitan area while the inner city tend to be the wealthiest part of the region (with a few exceptions.)
Yes. Interestingly enough, American cities are starting to become more like European cities in that regard. As our urban cores continue to improve and become more affluent, it will be interesting to see what happens to the American suburb in a few decades.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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Who gives a wet crap what any pope, let alone the Nazi pope has to say about anything?
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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Hmm... interesting. Do you consider that every aspect of our culture and society should change? Morals, ethics, political structure etc?
I don't care. Cultural change is usually good, and at worst it is neutral.

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Perhaps, one day murder will be condoned...
That is a ridiculous strawman. No culture on earth condones murder.

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Does progressivism and change apply to concepts, institutions and ideas that have existed for centuries or millennia?
Slavery existed for millennia, then CHANGE happened and slavery went away. That was a good thing. Yes, I will accept cultural change as it comes. Despite the right's best attempts, cultural shift cannot be stopped.

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You must admit that change is not always a good thing.
Not always. However, the far right takes their anti-change views to an irrational extreme. To put it plainly, the right's views are based on nothing but pure fear and ignorance. Fear is a powerful motivator that induces people to act irrationally, often causing damage to innocent people.

The Nazi movement was based on this type of irrational fear -- xenophobia and fear of change. Look at the horrific damage it caused.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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There's absolutely no benefit from Europeans allowing themselves to be destroyed in their own country's by third world immigrants.

Enough of this "it's culture blah blah deal with it."

No, in only half a century White people have practically sealed their fate of self-destruction.

If White people are gone, who is going to invent everything and usher in changes such as democracy and women's rights? Africans? lol.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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When Muslim extremists blow each other up is that also part of God's "intelligent design"?
If one believes in intelligent design, I suppose that it would be.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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I don't care. Cultural change is usually good, and at worst it is neutral.

That is a ridiculous strawman. No culture on earth condones murder.

Slavery existed for millennia, then CHANGE happened and slavery went away. That was a good thing. Yes, I will accept cultural change as it comes. Despite the right's best attempts, cultural shift cannot be stopped.

Not always. However, the far right takes their anti-change views to an irrational extreme. To put it plainly, the right's views are based on nothing but pure fear and ignorance. Fear is a powerful motivator that induces people to act irrationally, often causing damage to innocent people.

The Nazi movement was based on this type of irrational fear -- xenophobia and fear of change. Look at the horrific damage it caused.
The Nazi movement was based on a fear of change and xenophobia? Hitler didn't radically transform Germany through Nazism? Under Hitler, Germany was transformed into a highly regulated, bureaucratic, militaristic, and oppressive society. Through incremental, furtive and seemingly "progressive" graduations, Hitler changed Germany from a relatively peaceful nation under the Weimar Republic into a devastating war machine.... through national socialism I might add. Something liberals tend to conveniently forget.
Also, the Jewish population had been woven into the European social fabric for millennia before Hitler came to power. Nazism was not based on xenophobia; rather it derived from an intolerance and bigotry toward anyone who did not fall in line with their particular agenda.

Also, I suspect you are a proponent of gay marriage. Do you also condone the marital rights of polygamists and persons who commit incest? Or perhaps the government shouldn't be involved in the marriage business at all?
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