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The entire list is nothing but a complete load of CRAP. I'm a liberal and a Christian to boot. Not one single aspect of this idiot list applies to me in the least.
Does anyone out there have even half an idea what a real liberal stands for? I'm beginning to seriously doubt it, in the USA anyway.
"Towards a more just society". That's it in it's totality. Nothing more and nothing less than that is liberalism. Now, the fact is that there have been many attempts at creating this that have been failures and if the liberal forces that be continue on with failing programmes and ideas, that's not liberalism but just plain old fashioned stupidity.
Here in Canada we have a very liberal society and at times things have gotten out of balance with the attempt to be all thing to all people. It has been at these times that the programme has been adjusted by the people voting in a conservative government. At present we have a very conservative federal government BUT in many many ways it is far more liberal that any government the USA has ever had.
Universal healthcare, almost but not quite yet a guaranteed anual income for all Canadians. Excellent education systems, equality laws and many more liberal things of that nature. Does it not seem strange to you American right wingers that Canada can be such a bastion of liberalism and at the same time have one of the best government financials in the world? This fact is because the right wing idea that fiscal responsibility and liberalism are incompatable is completely and totally dead wrong.
Here is a good example of it. It costs an auto maker around $1200 LESS per car to build them here rather than in the USA in health care costs alone. So, tell me this, would you as the owner of an auto plant rather build a new plant in Detroit or across the river in Windsor?
Toyota has said many times the reason they build so many plants here in Ontario is because of the HIGHER level of education in the general workforce gets them far superior employees.
As I have pointed out already a liberal society can very well have a conservative government but that is something very few Americans will or can understand. You see this is the truth. The politicians in the USA that claim to be conservatives very rarely are that. They are pretty much so backwards and so reactionary that they resemble fuedal Lords more than anything else. They almost always blame the poor for all the troubles of the country while making policy that is designed to give even more to the already well off mambers of the society. A glaring aspect that is well understood and observed about the American right by foreigners is that their class is far more important to them than their country. THEY WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS NO MATTER HOW BADLY IT IS NEEDED IF IT CAUSED THE LEAST COST TO IT'S OWN NARROW CLASS AND INTERESTS.
This is in no way, shape or form conservatism by any definitiono of the word and because of it's near total bankruptcy these neandrathals destroying America at a faster and faster rate.
What car companies exactly originate in Canada? Oh that's right zero! Yeah Canada's Socialism is so great, that's why canada has 24 Billionaires and the United States has like over 400 Billionaires.
What car companies exactly originate in Canada? Oh that's right zero! Yeah Canada's Socialism is so great, that's why canada has 24 Billionaires and the United States has like over 400 Billionaires.
How many American car compaines would exist right now had the far right had their way.
What car companies exactly originate in Canada? Oh that's right zero! Yeah Canada's Socialism is so great, that's why canada has 24 Billionaires and the United States has like over 400 Billionaires.
Just because Africa is said to be the birth place of humanity, doesn't make it the greatest place on the planet.
What car companies exactly originate in Canada? Oh that's right zero! Yeah Canada's Socialism is so great, that's why canada has 24 Billionaires and the United States has like over 400 Billionaires.
Do your homework and you will find out that the original formation of General Motors was very Canadian with MacLauglin motors of Oshawa On being one of the major partners.
The number of billionaires in a country is a really weird way to measure anything at all. I have a very rich uncle who was a VP of General Electric for many years. He says this about the USA. It's a great country to live if you are wealthy but it's a really bad place to be if you are poor." See, that's the biggest difference between here and there. For the most part Canada is not such a bad place to live if you are poor. It can be a bad place if you do not know how to take advantage of the social programmes that are available to you but that is another subject altogether.
I like to use this as an illustration. This is from 3 years ago and things have changed in this situation but this is the way it was.
I have two sons that live in Vancouver BC. The older boy and his wife are both medical DR.s and specialists to boot. The other son and his wife were both students, he was in law school and she was just obtaining her Chartered accountant designation.
Obviously the income difference between these two families was huge. Dr. son in the top 1% and lawyer student in the bottom 1%. Dispite this difference there was very little difference in the lifestyle these two lived. Dr. son had nicer stuff to be sure but lawyer student son lacked nothing at all. They both do the same things for leisure, Fishing, hiking and camping. The poorer one gets to go to more Canuks NHL games because he has a friend with a private box.
My whole point is that you can not look at income scales and equate that to quality of living when the state supplies everyone with basic services like healthcare.
PS, now that lawyer son and his wife have graduated they still live in the same rental and live the same way to my eyes. They have a new car though! They are probable saving money and paying off student loans.
Why bother debunking anything? You're just going to believe whatever you want anyway.
I looked at the list. A bunch of inflammatory garbage that takes a position that the author believes in anyway, and then looks for whatever he can to back it up. Trash.
If you support the use of abortion you certainly are pro abortion, If not you would be pro life
In a certain little, overly confined world that might be true when in reality, it is about being pro-choice versus an authoritarian's take on the subject of "anti-choice" (as in, "do as I tell you to").
For those reasons, if you choose to defend someone's lies on the grounds of free speech, doesn't make you pro-lies. Does it?
In a certain little, overly confined world that might be true when in reality, it is about being pro-choice versus an authoritarian's take on the subject of "anti-choice" (as in, "do as I tell you to").
For those reasons, if you choose to defend someone's lies on the grounds of free speech, doesn't make you pro-lies. Does it?
pro choice is pro abortion in every sense. Pro life is about the government intruding on the life of another by endorsing murder.
pro choice is pro abortion in every sense. Pro life is about the government intruding on the life of another by endorsing murder.
Government intruding? What part of "choice" do you understand? Government intrudes when it prevents an individual's choice. As for your continued rant on pro-choice being the same as pro-abortion, I take it then that you don't believe free speech applies if a person lies because, suggesting that the person has the right to free speech would make you a liar even if you disagree with the speech itself.
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Liberals are hypocrites because muslims hate gays? Ahh, what?
It is a consequence of conservative blood flow to conservatives' brains in such conservatives.
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