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Old 12-15-2011, 05:28 AM
 
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Funny. I work at a medical center and I have seen numerous surgeries cancelled over the years due to insurance denial of payment.
I'm sorry, I misread your posting.. non emergencies are not mandated for care, emergency ones are if they receive federal funding.

non emergency ones the individual can apply for federal assistance or hospital assistance, or even a payment plan.

That is the reason why most people carry insurance after all.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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My daughter has tiny student loans and never imagines she will be a homeowner or drive a new car. She does work but not for benefits. A year out of college it's little more than internships that throw some cash her way. Eventually she will build her resume to the point where she can be pickier and hopefully get hired by a firm to work on staff and have benefits of her own. Until then she spends all her money just on rent and food. She's still on the family cell phone plan and covered under her dads company medical policy. She is pretty healthy but has some skin issues that she sees a Dr for. And an accident would wipe her, and us, OUT. Next year she will apply for her own individual policy but I'm grateful we can keep her on a bit longer. We have a younger child on the plan to so it's not costing us any more money.
Sometimes you have to get two maybe even three jobs if the economy cannot support you with one.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Sometimes you have to get two maybe even three jobs if the economy cannot support you with one.

20yrsinBranson
Always a solution that is simple, elegant and wrong! Most of these PT jobs don't offer insurance.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Most people under the age of 26 have few health problems. So if your insurance company raised your premium to cover them, odds are you added to the grotesque wealth of your health insurance CEO.
Oh don't worry, they'll invent some diseases for them.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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The insurance companies that bought Obama's election, are loving it!
As cost goes up for us that like to pay as we go.

Crisis capitalism at its finest.

Government creates a crisis, and their buddies sweep in and reap the profits.
Crisis economic fascism would likely be a more accurate term since the costs are to the taxpayer but the profits are privatized. Indeed certain health insurance companies are gleaning in the profits before they are outlawed. Yet the rising costs of healthcare are mostly due to government intervention into the private market on many fronts, including Medicare/Medicaid.

I have to wonder why more people don't recognize this fact. It was/is the same thing with our economic crisis in striking down Glass-Stegal (TARP & mulitple "stimulus/jobs" spending bills, with the "war on drugs" (DEA laundering cartel money while feds allow drug cartels to run the drugs into major cities), with guns in the hands of Mexican drug cartels (Operation Fast & Furious), with wars in the Middle East (CIA creates Al Qaeda & Taliban do bring down Soviet Union in Afghanistan), Man Made Global Warming (Solyndra et al......), and the list goes on, and on , and on.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Oh don't worry, they'll invent some diseases for them.

20yrsinBranson
They already have. Just look at the epidemic of kids over the past 20 years diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and on prescription drugs for same. $$$$$$$$! Look at soaring rates of Autism and related disorders. Coincidence? Doubtful as the FDA/Monsanto is regulating everything, right?
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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They already have. Just look at the epidemic of kids over the past 20 years diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and on prescription drugs for same. $$$$$$$$! Look at soaring rates of Autism and related disorders. Coincidence? Doubtful as the FDA/Monsanto is regulating everything, right?
If there is something to blame for it, it is influence of money (AKA "free speech") in government and how it is eventually run. I don't expect future lobbyists, politicians enjoying the incentives of legalized bribery (AKA "free speech") and corporatists themselves creating and enforcing policies towards the benefit of the people but their own self-interest at everybody else's expense.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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They already have. Just look at the epidemic of kids over the past 20 years diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and on prescription drugs for same. $$$$$$$$! Look at soaring rates of Autism and related disorders. Coincidence? Doubtful as the FDA/Monsanto is regulating everything, right?
You are exactly right. As well as the incredible use of anti-depressants and other drugs designed to alleviate NATURAL emotions and zombie-fy us!

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:49 AM
 
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Most people under the age of 26 have few health problems. So if your insurance company raised your premium to cover them, odds are you added to the grotesque wealth of your health insurance CEO.
Rates don't go up because of coverage expansion? Where do you work in a medical center? The cafeteria?

Basically the only thing we are disagreeing on is whether or not anyone had to pay more for 2.1million young adults being insured. I say yes, you say no.

(Granted you are disagreeing with pretty much every budget estimate, the white house, every major media outlet......)

It's funny watching you paint yourself into this tiny little partisan corner. The expansion of coverage is not a BAD thing in my opinion, it's just not FREE.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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They already have. Just look at the epidemic of kids over the past 20 years diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and on prescription drugs for same. $$$$$$$$! Look at soaring rates of Autism and related disorders. Coincidence? Doubtful as the FDA/Monsanto is regulating everything, right?
Please don't hijack this thread. There are plenty of threads on these topics already.
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