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God makes the rules, not man. Homosexuality is a sin.
Seeing as God has been mighty quiet over the last couple of millennia, we've been forced to make do with his self-appointed spokespersons, who sadly seem to have been afflicted with all the human weaknesses. They sure as all out have had no problem making their own rules as time progressed.
And no ruler is as scary as the one who firmly believes he's carrying out God's will. Because if you're acting on behalf of God, what actions can be off limits?
America was founded by people who were informed by the Enlightenment and by Deism not by Christianity, they went to extraordinary lengths to ensure that there was no state religion, nothing that could be used to exclude others based solely on religion.
Yes, but they meant that no religion should be above others! They even address God in the Constitution!
The presidents are sworn in using a Christian bible.
Are you guys so blinded by your agenda that you will deny that America was founded by Christians?
We still use Christian ethics and morality as a foundation of this society: we do not allow polygamy and celebrate Christmas. Are you blind?
There is a huge difference between official state religion and using common christian values as a ethical foundation. Most people are not church goers yet still use Judeo-Christian ethics as a moral standard...
Anyway, I am happy to be informed of Chick Fil A's policies and they will of course not see a dime of my business. It's not as if I'm short on options.
Anyway, I am happy to be informed of Chick Fil A's policies and they will of course not see a dime of my business. It's not as if I'm short on options.
It's not like a leftist boycott will make much of a difference. That only makes me want to visit Chick-Fil-A more.
Chick-Fil-A, regardless of its location, is PACKED every day for lunch and has a substantial crowd for supper.
Yes, but they meant that no religion should be above others!
Including, of course, the option of no religion.
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They even address God in the Constitution!
Nope. Unless you count "in the year of our Lord", which is stretching it.
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The presidents are sworn in using a Christian bible.
By custom and choice, not by law. Several Presidents chose not to. And let me save you some trouble by pointing out that "So help me God" is not in the official oath.
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Are you guys so blinded by your agenda that you will deny that America was founded by Christians?
Founded by some of the smartest political minds to come out of the Enlihghtenment, which is why they designed their new country as one that kept law and religion completely separate.
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We still use Christian ethics and morality as a foundation of this society: we do not allow polygamy and celebrate Christmas. Are you blind?
You might want to look up the Pilgrims' views on celebrating Christmas.
Anyway, I am happy to be informed of Chick Fil A's policies and they will of course not see a dime of my business. It's not as if I'm short on options.
Precisely! Good for you for standing up for what is morally just, despite the threat of a god somewhere sending you to Hell for it
Yes, but they meant that no religion should be above others! They even address God in the Constitution!
"God" could mean Adonai, Allah, Buddha, Brahma, Ahura Mazda, Confucius, Osirus, Zeus, Serapis, or Mother Nature. NO WHERE IS "JESUS" OR "YHWH" NAMED IN THE CONSTITUTION.
The presidents are sworn in using a Christian bible.
NO! YOU ARE WRONG. THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS SWORN IN BY PLACING HIS RIGHT HAND ON THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. Anyway, when we have our first Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist President you will see them swearing the oath on the TORAH or the BHAGAVAD GITA or the DHAMMAPADA. You are aware that there is no law that says the President-Elect has to swear on the Bible, right? That is entirely up to the person being sworn.
Are you guys so blinded by your agenda that you will deny that America was founded by Christians?
The United States of America was founded by white men, most of whom were wealthy and slave-owners, and many of them identified themselves as Protestant Christians ... BUT NOT ALL. These gentlemen wore powdered wigs, velvet and satin knee-breeches, lace-edged shirts and silk waistcoats. Many of the "Founding Fathers" had a skepticism, distrust, and even hostility to the organized Christian religion: men like Thomas Paine (an atheist) and others like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, who considered themselves Deists and Unitarians ... BUT NOT CHRISTIANS ... they were men of the Age of Enlightenment after all. So what is your point????
We still use Christian ethics and morality as a foundation of this society: we do not allow polygamy and celebrate Christmas. Are you blind?
The ethics and morality of this society, in my view, pre-date Christianity. Our ethics and morality stem from Greco-Roman philosophy and political ideology - this country aspires to the ideals of Republicanism, Democracy, Constitutional representation, etc. These are ideals formulated in ancient Greece and Rome. That is why we have a SENATE. That is why our government buildings are in a classical architectural style that is Greco-Roman ... and not in a "Christian" Gothic style like in the United Kingdom. Besides our ethics and morality owe as much to the Code of Hammurbi, Zoroastrianism, and Judaism as it does to Christianity.
Listen - I live within a walking distance of the birthplaces of this great nation: not only Independence Hall, but Carpenters Hall where the House of Burgesses first met, the City Tavern, and all the other places associated with the Continental Congress, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, etc. I am in awe every day I pass by these historic places.
Don't lecture me on American history or our ethics and philosophical heritage. I am a historian, on the Board of Governors of the local Historical Society, and very well read on the subject.
You are the victim of the fundamentalist Christian revisionism of American History ... something that is not new, it started with the Victorians in the mid-Nineteenth Century. It is a myth. Just like the story that Betsy Ross designed the first Stars and Stripes.
I don't think you understand how business results are calculated, or reported.
Speak for yourself. I own a very successful business and am in the process of starting a second one. But thanks for attempting deflection and showing your intelligence level.
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