Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
If you think that the big business 1% hasn't bought and paid for democrat leaders then you are indeed brainwashed.
The only difference between the GOP and the democrat is that the GOP isn't insulting the intelligence of party members by pretending to be "for the poor".
The GOP is for everybody.
Remember, it was Richard Nixon who expanded Free Lunches for Inner-City School Children.
I also remember that Nixon was a blatant racist, BTW don't whites live in the inner city also? The free lunch program was not just designed for black children. Was'nt you the one that ask "why do we want handouts?" Please make up your mind
If you think that the big business 1% hasn't bought and paid for democrat leaders then you are indeed brainwashed.
If I'm brainwashed, I'm in good company.
I'll take being brainwashed any day over being brain dead.
Quote:
The only difference between the GOP and the democrat is that the GOP isn't insulting the intelligence of party members by pretending to be "for the poor".
The GOP doesn't have to pretend because they don't care.
Quote:
Remember, it was Richard Nixon who expanded Free Lunches for Inner-City School Children.
Is that all you remember about Richard (Tricky Dicky) Nixon? LMAO!!!!! Does Watergate mean anything to you?
****************
A very interesting article on the Republican and Democratic parties, from their creation, what and who they represented. An interesting read for anyone, regardless of political affiliation. It details how parties change and how they don't.
Quote:
The economic positions of the Democratic and Republican parties have stayed relatively the same over time.
The Republican Party, from an economic perspective, has traditionally supported economic policy that favors investors, big business and the wealthy. The Democratic Party has always supported economic policy that favors farmers and the working-class, at least from the popular perspective.
Now, within the past 20 years, because the Republican Party has adopted the social agenda of the old Democratic Party, farmers and laborers shifted alliances to the Republican Party, especially in the South.
Repubs adoption of the social agenda of the old Dem party is an add on. As the population grew, the party probably could have never survived if they hadn't. It doesn't mean that the Repubs stopped serving the wealthy. So, what exactly have the Republicans done that is notable to the middle class/black community in the past 20 years with the add on?
Last edited by softblueyz; 01-15-2012 at 07:14 AM..
The GOP has constantly shot itself in the foot ever since Nixon, depending on the white southern vote to get them by. They constantly proved that they do not need the black vote to win. This is why many of them have resorted to redistricting and voter fraud/bullying
You should really just let it go, you have a better chance of convincing defense contractors to vote for Ron Paul
I''m beginning to understand why blacks are afraid of republicans.
The republican party is the only major party that refuses to divide people by race as they are too focused on AMERICAN problems as opposed to the issues of one sub-section of America.
Would y'all drop your fear of the GOP if they began to focus only on black issues?
When have democrats actually fulfilled their promises to help blacks achieve without government hand-holding?
I also remember that Nixon was a blatant racist, BTW don't whites live in the inner city also? The free lunch program was not just designed for black children. Was'nt you the one that ask "why do we want handouts?" Please make up your mind
Most poor whites live in rural areas. Are you from America? Who doesn't know that?
I'm not saying they are brainwashed because they are democrats.
I am saying they are brainwashed because they HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN ANOTHER PARTY A CHANCE.
You can tell the people who are brainwashed because they are the ones who have all kinds of stupid notions about republicans based on one or two outliers.
That is how you can tell.
Ok and that's different from you having all kinds of stupid notions about black people who choose to be democrats because you're basing that on more than one or two? I don't understand how your response answers my question...is it possible that you can't tell the reason why a individual voted a particular way?
If you think that the big business 1% hasn't bought and paid for democrat leaders then you are indeed brainwashed.
The only difference between the GOP and the democrat is that the GOP isn't insulting the intelligence of party members by pretending to be "for the poor".
The GOP is for everybody.
Remember, it was Richard Nixon who expanded Free Lunches for Inner-City School Children.
The GOP is for rich white people. You wouldn't be on this thread preaching that lie if there was a republican president. You wouldn't want or need our vote. You only want us to take a look at the republican party because you want to make sure Obama is 1 and done. Here is the reality, when you have a democratic president, you will pay for entitlements, and when you have a republican president you won't. It was like that 10 years ago, 1 year ago, today, tomorrow, 1 year from now, and 10 years from now.
When, exactly, have a majority of blacks given the republican party a chance?
During the Clarence Thomas hearings? No.
Yes. Thomas had quite a bit of support at first.
Quote:
Condoleeza Rice's nomination? No.
Yes, again, lots of support there, and Rice is still fairly popular.
Quote:
Michael Steele's gubernatorial run? No.
Yes. Despite his made-up story about being "pelted with Oreos", he won about 1/3rd of the black vote in Maryland. But then again, he actually *tried* to win that support. See how that works?
Quote:
Any support for Walt Williams from a majority of blacks? No.
The Mavericks player?
Quote:
Bill Cosby's "Pound Cake" speech? No.
Had massive support, just as Obama did when he said many of the same things a few years later - the idea that black people all hate Cosby is a conservative myth. The man spent *years* traveling around to black communities, preaching the same message to packed and cheering audiences. If you knew anything about black people, you'd know that the themes Cosby hit on are actually hugely popular - even Louis Farrakhan rose to prominence back in the 1980s by saying the same things directly to young black men and women. It was the central point behind the Million Man March.
And by the way, Cosby's not much of a republican - he openly proclaimed that he was proud to vote for Obama, even taking along pictures of his deceased family members to the voting booth.
Quote:
Blacks haven't given the GOP a chance since they were bought and paid for by the democrat party during the reign of FDR.
I like that. *black* people were bought and paid for, despite the fact that many of FDR's programs were deliberately designed to exclude black people.
I'll leave aside that whole silly "democrat party" thing.
But your people embraced the Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd.
Hypocrites.
Two things:
First, Byrd died. He's not really relevant.
Second, Byrd reformed about as well as one can expect from someone from that era. He flatly referred to his KKK membership as the single biggest mistake of his life, and in his later years consistently voted to advance the rights of black people. Contrast this with, say, Jesse Helms, who was not only a racist, but also fiercely homophobic.
"The republican party is the only major party that refuses to divide people by race as they are too focused on AMERICAN problems as opposed to the issues of one sub-section of America."
He says this but the republican party is made up of 95% whites. He rants about blacks giving the republican party a chance but he has not given one example of the party reaching out to blacks. To George Bush credit he did hire very capable blacks to his cabinet and I commend him for this. The fact of the matter is the republican party does not need the black vote to win elections. They have won then in the past with very little black support. This is not to say that all republicans are racist because this would be way to much of a broad brush. They don't need the black vote and they don't want it point blank. Blacks would consider the GOP if the GOP had a message for blacks. To many of it's members believe they can't have this conversation without offering government entitlement programs and freebies. Seems they believe all blacks are poor and downtrodden. They never consider their black neighbor who works and have kids at the same school may share the same concerns as themselves. For some magical reason they think he likes welfare mothers getting lifetime benefits. His tax money being given to wall street to bail it the same crooks that got us into his mess. Even though we works just as hard as his white counterparts he somehow likes his tax money being wasted. We share many of the same concerns yet we are so far apart. Lets be clear, the republican party abandoned blacks not the other way around. They chose the southern white vote and knew by doing this they would lose the black vote. They have made zero effort to get it back and because of this we have what we have today.
"The republican party is the only major party that refuses to divide people by race as they are too focused on AMERICAN problems as opposed to the issues of one sub-section of America."
He says this but the republican party is made up of 95% whites...
No it's not.
Quote:
In recent decades, the party has been moderately successful in gaining support from Hispanic and Asian American voters. George W. Bush, who campaigned energetically for Hispanic votes, received 35% of their vote in 2000 and 44% in 2004.[69] The party's strong anti-communist stance has made it popular among some minority groups from current and former Communist states, in particular Cuban Americans, Korean Americans, Chinese Americans, and Vietnamese Americans. The election of Bobby Jindal as Governor of Louisiana has been hailed as pathbreaking.[70] He is the first elected minority governor in Louisiana and the first state governor of Indian descent.[71] In the 2008 presidential election, John McCain won 55% of white votes, 35% of Asian votes, and 31% of Hispanic votes, compared to just 4% of African American votes.[72] In the 2010 House election, the GOP won 60% of the white votes, 38% of Hispanic votes, while winning only 9% of the African American vote.[73]
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
